So sick of jensense and shoemoney

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Unless either you or Jon has proof about the accusations you've made against each other I suggest you shut the hell up. Oh wait, its so easy to forge fake shit online, so in actually there isn't any definitive proof. So now what? We can't really see each others facial expressions, so its not like we can read your emotions. I see this confrontation going nowhere.
 


ShoeMoney said:
Ya this thread is hilarious... this place is hilarious... Engaged master of all arbitrage who begged andrea to come to the elite retreat for 500$ cause that was all he could afford then I was like fuck that loser... whats up now?

Jon - you call me all the time you drop my name to people constantly in the industry like we know eachother and out the other side of your mouth you take swings... Also funny how you now respect engaged when last we talked you said you hated him and wanted his address and shit or did already switch sides.

I have met more shit talking fake bullshitting people on this forum then anywhere ever. Dru sam you were cool in person and brandon was cool too. And jon you wonder why I never link to you fuck you dude.

You guys calling David Naylor and Mikkel DeMib dumbass brits... HAH!

Whatever peace........
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No talent ass clown.
 
Wow. What a waste of everyone's time. Are you little girls done tiffing yet or am I going to have to separate you so you don't muss up your dresses?


Industry experts or no, at least provide each other with some professional courtesy. Or don't. I don't care.
 
ShoeMoney said:
Ya this thread is hilarious... this place is hilarious... Engaged master of all arbitrage who begged andrea to come to the elite retreat for 500$ cause that was all he could afford then I was like fuck that loser... whats up now?
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um i never said thats what i could afford, i said thats what id pay... didnt so much beg either, i said id pay $500 to go to ER, bc why the f not, 500 aint too much and its 30 mins away, id like to see if i actually learned anything and guy kawasaki was there...

so she said yah, 500 is cool... but i guess the day beore you got nervous id bash it and didnt want me to go, so whatever, never brought it up again...

i could afford 5k, trust me son, i threw out a number and andrea accepted bc the turnout was so low she was just trying to fill seats.

and while we are on the topic of andrea, who was nice enough to drive her from hotel to hotel, took her out to lunch... not you, her brother... that was me. your fucking welcome for delivering andrea to san francisco, otherwise she may still be stuck in south san francisco.

theres the truth.
 
also add, i dont care what shoemoney talks about or what not, but it was clear you aren't big in arbi, very clear... you may know people or whatever i dont give a shit... i dont have a beef with you or whatever, just sick of people believing everything they here...

and lastly, on your blog, you should let people know when you drop affiliate links like keycompete... probably have some 14 yr old who can't afford it trying it out bc you mention it and making you $.
 
also last mention, me and jon talked things out a while go, no sense fighting like bitchs when were both little jews
 
I happen to like shoemoney and his radio shows. Jon I also find it funny how you banned engaged in the past, and said some pretty nasty things about him then, and now he is some kind of guru. what are you basing this on? and if youre going to bash the show, at least give specifics as to what you disliked about it.. dont just come on here and start bashing it for no reason.
 
wickedDUDE said:
I happen to like shoemoney and his radio shows. Jon I also find it funny how you banned engaged in the past, and said some pretty nasty things about him then, and now he is some kind of guru. what are you basing this on? and if youre going to bash the show, at least give specifics as to what you disliked about it.. dont just come on here and start bashing it for no reason.
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listen, read the above about me & jon....

i certainly am not a guru... i blow ass at affiliate for sure, won't pretend i do good there...

im ok at some spammy crap...

but im pretty damn good with arbi
 
i found the conversation shoe:

PlanetAndrea123: i think you should go to elite retreat
PlanetAndrea123: :P
PlanetAndrea123: i won't tell anyone :-)
engaged84: no thx
engaged84: maybe for $500
engaged84: not 5k
PlanetAndrea123: lol
PlanetAndrea123: i'll see what i can do ;-)


look at me beggggggggg
 
ShoeMoney said:
Jon - you call me all the time you drop my name to people constantly in the industry like we know eachother and out the other side of your mouth you take swings... Also funny how you now respect engaged when last we talked you said you hated him and wanted his address and shit or did already switch sides.

I have met more shit talking fake bullshitting people on this forum then anywhere ever. Dru sam you were cool in person and brandon was cool too. And jon you wonder why I never link to you fuck you dude.
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Jeremy-

Anytime I voice my opinion and you're involved, I almost always explain that I'm voicing my opinion and that I still consider you a friend in the industry and respect you. Just because we don't see eye to eye on some things doesn't mean that I think you're a fraud or that I dislike you. I know for a fact that we both disagree on a bunch of different topics and things we have done in the past, or things we will continue to do, however wrong, lame or fucked up, but again, I come off as an asshole because I would MUCH rather be upfront, blunt and honest about something or someone that be two faced by lying to them pretending to be someone I'm not and then go behind their back and talk shit.

If you really don't want to be here anymore, then don't come around. If you don't want to link to me, then don't. No one is forcing you Jeremy, and don't for one second go nuts here and pull any kind of shit on me or any members here either. We both have bad tempers, and many times we act first and think later, only to end up apologizing and really regretting it too.

I still consider you a friend in the industry up until you tell me flat out that you don't consider me one. So think about it first, and if you wanna talk to me, by all means, you know how to get in contact with me about it. I have absolutely no problems with you blogging about what a prick I am, or how much of an asshole you think I am, but let's be serious here, I have never once lied to you. I have never taken your ideas like someone else we know. I said I didn't like you long before you came here, then after talking to you I actually did like you and publicly admitted that I misjudged you.

The ball is in your court dude. Whatever you decide, I'll definitely respect it. One of the ONLY reasons why I don't go after some of the things you do or say specifically is because I won't cross that fine line between being a trusted friend and being a coniving fuck. Yeah, I'm definitely not the nicest person to some people, and maybe sometimes I don't know when to shut up or when to not lash out at someone, or when to not joke about something, but if I ever offend you, or go too far, TELL ME. Don't just sit there and say nothing, because if someone did it to me, I'd say something in a flash so that if they do it again, then I know they have no regard or loyalty to be my friend.

I also called you the other day because I wanted to tell you up front that we should join forces, media/news wise, rather than constantly going up against one another, and also to find out if you were upset at anything I may have said in the past, and to get an answer from you about what is okay to talk about and what isn't.

Finally, let me just reaffirm something here.. I give most people the benefit of the doubt at first. Unless they give me reason to not trust them or not like them. Don't think for a second that I can't read someone, the way they act, and shit they say or do behind my back, as if I won't find out. I take that stuff very seriously, and I have no problem whatsoever getting someone back for fucking me over. There are only a few people in the entire industry who I absolutely HATE. Lee Dodd is one of the for fucking me over and just being an absolute scumbag, and Chris Lingle is the second one for lying about having cancer and making me, and others here feel stupid for trusting him. Aside for those two people, I don't hate anyone. I may have not liked Engaged, but I am very willing to forgive and forget just so long as someone is GENUINELY sorry or we can work it out somehow. But those two names mentioned, I could care less about them, and will NEVER say a single good thing about them after fucking me over.

Even if you don't want to be friends Jeremy, what we spoke about in the past remains confidential, unless you make me seem like a fool and try to fuck me over, then we'll have an issue, and unlike anyone else you're used to, I won't go away.

Your choice.
 
btw shoe... and jensense and the 2 brits i dont know who you are though...

im just frustrated with everyoe who thinks they think thye know everything... probably didnt mean it to come off that way, it just did...

no beef with any of you, think you're all smart people and probably cool to hang out with, etc. could def leanr a lot from all of you im sure... so there ya have it... i dont really mean what i say... im just a whiny vanilla face
 
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I can't even keep track of who hates who or who loves who anymore!!! By the time ASE comes I'm expecting things to be completely switched around again.
 
wickedDUDE said:
I happen to like shoemoney and his radio shows. Jon I also find it funny how you banned engaged in the past, and said some pretty nasty things about him then, and now he is some kind of guru. what are you basing this on? and if youre going to bash the show, at least give specifics as to what you disliked about it.. dont just come on here and start bashing it for no reason.
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We just didn't get along, and we both annoyed the shit out of one another and talked a lot of shit too.. but that was settled when we both saw that we were being stupid and babies about forum drama. We also realized we were a lot better off as friends or business friends, rather than enemies. Being that he never fucked me over, lied, or cheated me, then I was totally up for making ammends, even after swearing I never would. I was wrong, and he admitted to being wrong too. Water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned.

You can't hold grudges on people as long as they don't do REEEEEALLY fucked up things to you, or about you. So instead of going off and being enemies, we seemed to have a lot of the same business interests and apologized to one another without getting into any awkward convo, and just said "fuck it, water under the bridge" (I think that was the exact words I used, and the convo was no joke all on AIM, not on the phone like we planned, and took a whole 5 mins).
 
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