Do You Enjoy Manipulating People?



Hell yeah, I love pushing weightloss free trials.

"hey fatty, you wanna lose weight?"
"try this Product for FREE you only have to pay shipping and handling"
*small fine print were going bill your ass a shit ton of money son, and there's not much you can do about it"

Also the product is bullshit and doesn't do anything to help the fat person at all.

Hey but am at least not killing hookers like ryan eagle.
 
I don't enjoy playing games with women but I know I have to because I will get hosed if I don't.

I wish I lived 50-60 years ago when these games didn't exist so much and men and women were more upfront with one another during courtship. Men and women can't start being honest with each other until they actually find themselves in a relationship.

There was a time when a girl had to pick up the phone when you called because she didn't know who was on the other line. It made for much less games in those days. Giving cellphones to women has only made the problem worse.
 
A surprising number of "I'm better than you" attempts ITT LOL. (hey I used 2 Internet slang acronyms one right after the other, that must mean I'm better than you, bitch!). Seems like I hit a nerve with this one.
 
I wish I lived 50-60 years ago when these games didn't exist so much and men and women were more upfront with one another during courtship. Men and women can't start being honest with each other until they actually find themselves in a relationship.

Read The Art of Seduction. The games have always been there, and the book is filled with all kinds of fun historic examples (both men and women). Or - find a saucy old lady to tell you stories of her youth. I grew up around nursing homes and from what I've heard, things were not so different 50-60 years ago. People were just better at honoring their marital promises (or perhaps it's just that people weren't exposed to so many options since fewer women worked outside the home).

Games are fine to an extent and certainly make things more interesting - so long as both people seem to be on roughly the same page in terms of where to draw the line. Letting a guy sweat it for a few hours after a text message is vastly different than, say, running off and sleeping with a guy's best friend to make him jealous.
 
I wish I lived 50-60 years ago when these games didn't exist so much and men and women were more upfront with one another during courtship. Men and women can't start being honest with each other until they actually find themselves in a relationship.
Answer: Asian women.
 
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Read The Art of Seduction. The games have always been there, and the book is filled with all kinds of fun historic examples (both men and women). Or - find a saucy old lady to tell you stories of her youth. I grew up around nursing homes and from what I've heard, things were not so different 50-60 years ago. People were just better at honoring their marital promises (or perhaps it's just that people weren't exposed to so many options since fewer women worked outside the home).

Games are fine to an extent and certainly make things more interesting - so long as both people seem to be on roughly the same page in terms of where to draw the line. Letting a guy sweat it for a few hours after a text message is vastly different than, say, running off and sleeping with a guy's best friend to make him jealous.

I'm think of a "New Deal" approach. Since I don't enjoy games as you clearly do for example - I can text my new romantic prospects this: "hey, was great meeting u. I don't play games so please let me know the best time to call u. I will call u then. Once :) " And I will actually walk the talk.

What do you think?
 
lol @ OP's beta status

Until you are actually ignoring them unintentionally, you are still a young grasshopper.

This.

If you're thinking long and hard about how much time to wait before answering and believe that gives you an advantage, you're doing it wrong.
 
I'm think of a "New Deal" approach. Since I don't enjoy games as you clearly do for example - I can text my new romantic prospects this: "hey, was great meeting u. I don't play games so please let me know the best time to call u. I will call u then. Once :) " And I will actually walk the talk.

What do you think?

100% direct is not necessarily bad but it does put you at a slight disadvantage with most women, especially in the beginning of a relationship. Who you are and what you have to offer is only part of the equation - the other half (if not more) is how you make someone feel. Although your approach is commendable, it's not very exciting.

If it attracts he kind of women you like, great - but contrary to what they'll tell you, most women actually do enjoy a bit of ambiguity at first. Even the most rational woman will have a hard time talking herself out of being attracted to someone if they manage to figure out/accidentally hit upon how it is she wants to feel and then they make it happen.
 
Being an adult isn't exciting.

If your adult life isn't exciting, that's the result of your choices. As long as you're not being hurtful and both parties have the option to leave at any point, I fail to see the problem. Obviously, as you get to know someone, the relationship gets beyond the silly things people do when they barely know each other.

Don't hate me - hate the fact that it works often enough that people stiill do it.
 
That's not what I said, but it's a clever way to twist it.


"Works" is relative to the goal and all goals are subjective.

I really don't know how to interpret "Being an adult isn't exciting," other than to conclude that you don't feel that being an adult is exciting. I just happen to disagree and feel it's a matter of choice, regardless of whether you're talking about work, personal life, etc.

Your brevity and choice of words seemed to indicate a tone of derision, hence the tone of my reply :) And of course all goals are subjective - that's why my previous post specifically stated, "If it attracts the kind of women you like, great - but contrary to what they'll tell you, most women actually do enjoy a bit of ambiguity at first."