Internet Paulites: All Talk, No Show

I wear a Ron Paul shirt and have bumper stickers all over my car. I noticed that a lot of times I would go into a small store (like a smoke shop or guns tore) I would get comments from the owners on how much they love him...but had nothing to show their support. I got some signs, fliers, and bumper stickers and kept them in my truck. Now whenever someone says that I go get them some shwag to hang in their store.

turbolapp said:
Sweet. Just got family clearance to attend on Saturday's Delegate training. I'm a little confused about some things. I was reading something about being a registered republican to begin. Obviously I'm not. Is this going to be a problem? and more importantly, are people going to throw tomatoes at me?
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Texas has a weird primary. You don't have to be a republican to vote republican, but when you go to vote in the primary you declare which party you want to vote for and then you get a ballot with those candidates. I'm sure someone at the training can help you clear it up.

And I doubt there would be tomatoes thrown. Paulites welcome all party affiliations.
 


JarredLv said:
I wear a Ron Paul shirt and have bumper stickers all over my car. I noticed that a lot of times I would go into a small store (like a smoke shop or guns tore) I would get comments from the owners on how much they love him...but had nothing to show their support. I got some signs, fliers, and bumper stickers and kept them in my truck. Now whenever someone says that I go get them some shwag to hang in their store.



Texas has a weird primary. You don't have to be a republican to vote republican, but when you go to vote in the primary you declare which party you want to vote for and then you get a ballot with those candidates. I'm sure someone at the training can help you clear it up.

And I doubt there would be tomatoes thrown. Paulites welcome all party affiliations.
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I seriously doubt I will get to become a delegate for the GOP. Especially when I make it clear that I never intend to vote for a Republican again after Ron Paul. But I think I'll still attend just to educate myself more and meet other Paul supporters.

That's a good idea with ordering the package and passing out the goods to people who comment.
 
I have attended a few mock caucus sessions at the local campaign headquarters.

My wife and I are both planning to run for delegate in our precinct, 5 will be elected here. I will drop out if somebody else volunteers that I feel is more qualified and/or more likely to get votes from Romney/Gingrich/Santorum supporters.

If you are in a caucus state, get in touch with your local Ron Paul group or campaign headquarters so you can find out which delegates to vote for in your local precinct. Most will not be identifying themselves as Ron Paul supporters at the caucus. :thumbsup:
 
turbolapp said:
Sweet. Just got family clearance to attend on Saturday's Delegate training. I'm a little confused about some things. I was reading something about being a registered republican to begin. Obviously I'm not. Is this going to be a problem? and more importantly, are people going to throw tomatoes at me?
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Awesome see you tomorrow. And Jarred's explanation is my understanding too. As long as you're registered to vote in Texas, you can vote in the primary.

turbolapp said:
I seriously doubt I will get to become a delegate for the GOP. Especially when I make it clear that I never intend to vote for a Republican again after Ron Paul. But I think I'll still attend just to educate myself more and meet other Paul supporters.
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never say never ;>

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cougarclaws said:
Awesome see you tomorrow. And Jarred's explanation is my understanding too. As long as you're registered to vote in Texas, you can vote in the primary.
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Yeah I did some research this morning and figured out they're actually looking for wayward democrats and independents in open primary states like Texas. So yea!

Here's the state breakdown for open primaries, so if you're in the same boat as I am take note:

Alabama (50)
Arizona (Semi-closed, with primaries open only to unaffiliated or unrepresented voters, except for the Libertarian primary.)(57)
Arkansas (36)
Georgia (75)
Hawaii (Open primary for state, local, and congressional races; caucus system for presidential races.)(20)
Idaho (32)
Indiana (46)
Massachusetts (All races' primaries open for "unenrolled"/unaffiliated voters only)(41)
Michigan (59)
Mississippi (37)
Missouri (53)
South Carolina (50)
Tennessee (58)
Texas (152)
Vermont (17)
Virginia (49)
Wisconsin (42)

Total delegates for our taking in these Open Republican Primaries: 874 (1,212 needed to win)

2012 Open Primary States: The key to Ron Paul's Republican Nomination | Ron Paul 2012 | Peace . Gold . Liberty


Edit: Oh and with regards to Rand Paul, only time will tell if he stays true to his principles (which is key for me if I'm going to vote Republican again) but I haven't been as impressed with Rand as with Ron. Especially with his ideas on Foreign Policy. It seems he is just a Republican, with some libertarian leaning. As such, I have no interest. But I look forward to watching his track record.
 
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Ron Paul supporters won 5/5 delegate spots and 4/5 alternate spots at my MN precinct caucus last night.

I went to a party where Ron Paul was speaking afterwards and the lowest number that I heard there for any precinct was 50% of delegate spots filled by Ron Paul supporters, most were in the 75-100% range.

Ron Paul should have the numbers now to easily walk away with all of the MN delegates at the state convention even though Rick Santorum won the straw poll. :thumbsup:
 
I'm a Florida GOP delegate. You guys wouldn't like who I'm supporting though. lol
 
Netphase said:
Ron Paul supporters won 5/5 delegate spots and 4/5 alternate spots at my MN precinct caucus last night.

I went to a party where Ron Paul was speaking afterwards and the lowest number that I heard there for any precinct was 50% of delegate spots filled by Ron Paul supporters, most were in the 75-100% range.

Ron Paul should have the numbers now to easily walk away with all of the MN delegates at the state convention even though Rick Santorum won the straw poll. :thumbsup:
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^^exactly. And many delegates are keeping quiet about supporting RP to help pwn at the RNC in August.
 
I hit the money bombs and bought a bunch of swag. I still have all my 2008 stuff too.

Not sure if any of you participate in it, but I try to spend my time helping Campaign for Liberty.
 
Netphase said:
Ron Paul supporters won 5/5 delegate spots and 4/5 alternate spots at my MN precinct caucus last night.

I went to a party where Ron Paul was speaking afterwards and the lowest number that I heard there for any precinct was 50% of delegate spots filled by Ron Paul supporters, most were in the 75-100% range.

Ron Paul should have the numbers now to easily walk away with all of the MN delegates at the state convention even though Rick Santorum won the straw poll. :thumbsup:
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so the delegates aint declared after the results? I thought cnn, cbs and other pro-romney channels always display delegate count? can you please explain?
 
vinnythejinny said:
so the delegates aint declared after the results? I thought cnn, cbs and other pro-romney channels always display delegate count? can you please explain?
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Republican Party
The Republican Party of the United States utilizes a similar system with slightly different terminology, employing pledged and unpledged delegates. Of the total 2,380 Republican delegates, 1,719 are pledged delegates, who as with the Democratic Party, are elected at the state or local level. To become the Republican Party nominee, the candidate must win a simple majority of 1,191 of the 2,380 total delegates at the Republican National Convention.
A majority of the unpledged delegates are elected much like the pledged delegates, and are likely to be committed to a specific candidate. Many of the other unpledged delegates automatically claim the delegate status either by virtue of their position as a party chair or national party committee person. This group is known as unpledged RNC member delegates.
The process by which delegates are awarded to a candidate will vary from state to state. Many states use a winner-take-all system, where popular vote determines the winning candidate for that state, while a few others use a proportional representation. While the Republican National Committee does not require a 15% minimum threshold, individual state parties may impart such a threshold.
The unpledged RNC member delegates are free to vote for any candidate and are not bound by the electoral votes of their state. The majority of the unpledged delegates (those who are elected or chosen) are technically free to vote for any candidate; however they are likely to be committed to one specifically.[1]

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JarredLv said:
I wear a Ron Paul shirt and have bumper stickers all over my car. I noticed that a lot of times I would go into a small store (like a smoke shop or guns tore) I would get comments from the owners on how much they love him...but had nothing to show their support. I got some signs, fliers, and bumper stickers and kept them in my truck. Now whenever someone says that I go get them some shwag to hang in their store.
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Thats a good idea. Do you get many people saying the opposite?
 
thanks turbo, so he was referring to the unpledged ones. However, the pledged delegates to santorum cant flip-flop anymore right?
 
vinnythejinny said:
so the delegates aint declared after the results? I thought cnn, cbs and other pro-romney channels always display delegate count? can you please explain?
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Many times they display an "estimated" delegate count dividing them up by the straw poll results.

In the MN caucus hundreds/thousands of precinct delegates are elected on caucus night, some in each small precinct. My precinct had 5, I heard numbers as small as 1 and as large as 50+.

The precinct delegates all go to a larger area BPOU convention later and nominate/vote again between themselves on a smaller number of delegates to send to the state convention.

The ones elected at the BPOU convention go to the state convention in May and nominate/elect the 40 delegates from the group that will go to the National Convention in Tampa.

This is why Ron Paul has been focusing on organization in Caucus states. We were outnumbered by "other" supporters in our precinct, but their votes were split between the other 3 candidates and very few of them were willing to volunteer as delegates.

Iowa does the same thing. The Iowa caucus results all over the news was just a straw poll, their delegates won't be known until after their state convention in June. I have heard that Ron Paul supporter filled a large number of delegate spots there too.
 
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turbolapp said:
^^exactly. And many delegates are keeping quiet about supporting RP to help pwn at the RNC in August.
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Netphase said:
...their delegates won't be known until after their state convention in June. I have heard that Ron Paul supporter filled a large number of delegate spots there too.
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So you guys are saying that there is some hope afterall?

I can't believe it for the simple reason that those in power wouldn't have thought of closing that loophole somehow.

As much as I hope you're both right, I can certainly imagine seeing those secret delegates' votes being overturned or lost in Tampa. :disgust:
 
I don't know what's sadder, LukeP seriously believing that there's a grand conspiracy against Ron Paul and most of us in the GOP just don't like him (and his supporters are mostly why), or that Turbolapp thinks you can go from being a liberal stay at home Mom to a RNC delegate attending Tampa 2012 in a few weeks.

And if that's how it is (I don't know for sure I'm a Republican Party of Florida member and elected RNC Delegate) in Texas fuck me, that place is backwards.

LOL
 
GOP sent me some bullshit questionaire about Obamacare to rile me up to send them my money so they can elect Rombama. they asked me to use my own postage to save them money for the campaign so i filled the envelope with washers, bolts and beer caps and asked them not to mail me their trash. "yeah, i got a real bad temper."

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danke said:
I don't know what's sadder, LukeP seriously believing that there's a grand conspiracy against Ron Paul and most of us in the GOP just don't like him (and his supporters are mostly why), or that Turbolapp thinks you can go from being a liberal stay at home Mom to a RNC delegate attending Tampa 2012 in a few weeks.

And if that's how it is (I don't know for sure I'm a Republican Party of Florida member and elected RNC Delegate) in Texas fuck me, that place is backwards.
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I can and I most definitely will attempt it. It's almost a sure thing for me to be a delegate in my district. Next I go to the state convention in Fort worth where I will attempt to persuade them to send me to Tampa.

Will I actually get to go to the RNC? Who knows? but I'm enjoying watching the discomfort of the status quo establishment (such as yourself) as practice my rights as an American citizen.

(PS Florida is the actual backwards state where where winner-takes-all and the individual populist votes don't even count. Yea! No power to the people!)
 
danke said:
I don't know what's sadder, LukeP seriously believing that there's a grand conspiracy against Ron Paul and most of us in the GOP just don't like him (and his supporters are mostly why), or...
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I feel kinda sorry for you poor fools now.

I used to be mad because you were constantly in the way. But now that I've resolved to leaving this mess behind to people like you, I just pity you.

While I'm going to be living the good life in Asia, you and the rest of the red-&-blue-team members are going to still be proud of your silly little non-existent teams while your whole country is reduced to being another North Korea by the very people you keep voting for.

So sad indeed. :sadcrying4:
 
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