Severe Vitamin D deficiency 2 year update!

johnmatrix

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I started a thread nearly 2 years ago about being diagnosed severely deficient in vitamin D.

http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/103364-i-am-severely-vitamin-d-deficient.html

I started off taking 2 pills (2000IU) a day which probably wasn't enough to come out of a severe deficiency, but for the past year I've been taking 4 a day. Quite amazingly, I haven't had so much as a cold or flu in the past 11 months while every one of my closest friends has copped it hard. None of them will listen to me about taking vitamin D, their loss. It could be because they're imaginary but whatever. I used to get really bad sore throats since high school that would last for weeks at a time, at least every 4 months.

Another big change is I used to constantly have a sore neck and shoulders, I always felt like I needed a massage. My muscles feel perfectly fine now and I never feel the need for a massage.

I had my level checked again recently (oh universal healthcare how I love thee), and it's still slightly below normal. It's at 65 nmol\L, where 75 is the optimum level, and that's with me taking 4 pills a day (4000IU!). I started off with a level below 20. The recommended daily dose is only 400IU which would have very little effect if any.

Some key things I have learned since the last thread

- Don't let the name fool you, Vitamin D is actually a prehormone that is eventually converted into a steroid hormone called calcitriol, which is in fact the most potent steroid hormone in your body. A couple of other steroid hormones are testosterone and cortisol.

- UV light doesn't pass through glass, so your skin isn't making vitamin D when you're driving or catching rays through a window. Someone recommended installing a skylight in your house, it wouldn't help.

- Certain times of the year, the UV rays aren't the right wavelength for triggering vitamin D production.

- People living further from the equator have higher rates of multiple sclerosis, this has been directly linked to reduced vitamin D levels due to less sun exposure.

- The darker your skin is, the less vitamin D it produces from the same sun exposure as a pale person. Therefore darker people need much more sunlight. I'm pale as fuck though.

- Your immune system's T cells require sufficient vitamin D in the bloodstream to activate, if there isn't enough they just lie dormant and then infections take over. Explains why most people get sick in winter and why I used to get sick all the time.

I'll add some more shit if I think of it.
 


- UV light doesn't pass through glass, so your skin isn't making vitamin D when you're driving or catching rays through a window. Someone recommended installing a skylight in your house, it wouldn't help.

Bull. And wikipedia is not a valid source for proving me wrong.
 
It's true. Glass completely blocks UVB rays. UVB is needed for vitamin D production.

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Congrats on doing better. I think I remember that thread because I have had similar vitamin deficiencies, but my problem was being on a higher dose of prednisone for about 5 years straight. I take 2000IU a day and my immune system is much better then it once was. I also take B12 every day and got a B12 shot every 3 weeks since I had Cushing's disease, which suppresses your adrenal system.

Vitamins levels are weird though. My best advice to others if something just doesn't feel the same as before, get your vitamin levels checked. With my B12 problems, I thought I was getting dementia or something. I had no short term memory and my balance was horrible. Luckily it was a simple fix and it gives me plenty of energy to get through the day now.
 
Yes, low Vit D is the source of all evils. I have heard some doctors recommend everyone up north get a Vit D injection every year. There isn't much sunlight in northern regions anyway and the little there is, people don't get since they work indoors.
 
In laymen terms, Vit D is to your hormones what bricks are to a house (more complicated than that tho). They really should rename vit d to something way more important sounding.

When i used to train, the FIRST thing I had clients do was go have their hormone profiles tested and their vitamin d levels checked. Lost a lot of clients like that too.. they always thought it was such a foreign concept. I think they just wanted me to give them some diet pills and put them on a fucking exercise ball. Wasn't until I started telling the dumb fucks that I didn't want their money and that I wasn't just some flunk that got certified online and that I may not be right for their needs... then all of a sudden.. they all wanted in. Lol, was like magic.

Should be noted.. You shouldn't just run off and start taking vitamin d like you would vit c. You really need to get tested first bc there is an optimal range. But I would venture to guess that this being an IM forum many here would benefit greatly from taking the same steps you did.

Can I ask how old you are and if you've had a complete hormone profile done?
 
Cool thread, good info here.
My doc told me I was D-deficient about 3 months ago; I didn't really care enough to go get the supplements he recommended, because as many others have said here, the name "vitamin D" doesn't really do justice to how important it actually seems to be.

BRB CVS, going to stock up right this very minute, thanks for looking out :)
 
I think you shouldn't really try to go higher, a level of 50 is enough. Either way it's great that you solved your problem. I take about 5-10k a day (depending on how many hours of sunlight I get) but I haven't measured my blood levels yet.. It's $100+ where I live.. We have free healthcare in Canada but I don't think it covers these tests unless I can convince the doctor I need my levels tested.

Btw, Vitamin D stays about one week in the body so if you are going out of town you could take some extra vitmain D over a few days to compensate for the lower intake in the next ones.

Also, you can actually overdose from vitamin D supplements. The body can block itself from overdosing from sun exposure in terms of vitamin D but it can't "stop" itself from absorbing vitamin D from supplements, another reason that it's important to test the levels...
 
I'm curious about if it's possible to take to much. I've heard too much can be pretty bad, so I'm still somewhat cautious about the whole thing.

I definitely am interested in learning more about this. I live in a northern state, and I'm positive that I get SAD (seasonal affective disorder) in the winter months when there is no sunlight.

I've bought some vitamin D pills, but have yet to start taking them consistently.
 
Good info. Gov't propaganda has a lot to do with it. I'm not entirely convinced that sun exposure causes skin cancer. I think it might be the consumption of hydrogenated oils + sun exposure. Congrats on getting better!
 
I'm curious about if it's possible to take to much. I've heard too much can be pretty bad, so I'm still somewhat cautious about the whole thing.

I definitely am interested in learning more about this. I live in a northern state, and I'm positive that I get SAD (seasonal affective disorder) in the winter months when there is no sunlight.

I've bought some vitamin D pills, but have yet to start taking them consistently.

Try full spectrum lighting and get rid of any fluorescent lighting.