A More Professional Business

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TylerL

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I'm finally reopening my portfolio (tomorrow) and getting back into the web design business, but I'd like to get everything done right this time. Most of my transactions we're purely MSN conversations in the past, and I'd like to throw in business documents and such. Anyone know what I really need to get a proper business practice going?

Thanks,
Tyler
 


I'm not so much worried about legal issues right now, as all my transactions are usually via Paypal, and Paypal claims do just fine for sellers. I'm more worried about the appearance of my business practice. I'm 17 so it'd be nice to have something to 'make up' for my age.
 
Tyler. It's abvious you have skills in designing. But running a business takes multiple skill stes, with one of them being marketing. You need to put some serious time into learning and implementing online marketing strategies.

One of them is what your doing now. Come around more, help people here and at other forums and then pitch your shit here and there. Dont just make a post here and there selling stuff. Be helpful and post a lot where you can and the orders will come.

Do some work for some guys that have authority and ask to use them as refrences etc.

Good luck man. Your young and I guaranteee that if you keep it up, you'll be balling in no time.
 
The Web Design Business Kit, dare I say it, from sitepoint is a good start...

I'm not saying its the be all and end all - but I was in a similar situation to you a few years back and after reading (not all) of it, it put everything into perspective - helped me think about my business structure and also made really think about all aspects of my business.

Legal issues are very important for a designer... there is so many areas which you can get taken to the cleaners (lawyers) with - its worth getting clued up!

Have you ever considered working for a design agency/company, even a year doing this can teach you so much about the industry, knowledge which is Gold later down the line
 
The Web Design Business Kit, dare I say it, from sitepoint is a good start...

I'm not saying its the be all and end all - but I was in a similar situation to you a few years back and after reading (not all) of it, it put everything into perspective - helped me think about my business structure and also made really think about all aspects of my business.

Legal issues are very important for a designer... there is so many areas which you can get taken to the cleaners (lawyers) with - its worth getting clued up!

Have you ever considered working for a design agency/company, even a year doing this can teach you so much about the industry, knowledge which is Gold later down the line

My age generally holds me back from working with agencies. The jobs I want, I would have if I was a few years older, and the jobs I don't want.. well I can't get those at my age either. Any design agency is extremely reluctant or completely against hiring someone who isn't considered an adult yet.

Could you recommend any other reading I could do on legal issues as a freelancer (apart from the Sitepoint book you recommended)?
 
For contract templates I would check out ContractEdge. I have started designing website myself recently and found out that an easy to read, straight to the point contract is better than 1 - no contract, 2 - a long and drawn out contract. Hope this helps!
 
I'm not so much worried about legal issues right now, as all my transactions are usually via Paypal, and Paypal claims do just fine for sellers. I'm more worried about the appearance of my business practice. I'm 17 so it'd be nice to have something to 'make up' for my age.

Paypal claims doesn't cover digital products or services if I am not mistaken. Even if it does, you need to have some sort of contract in place. That will show that you've had some experience right there.
 
You have to know what to put in the contract though - thats the key

Believe me - design is one big gray area
 
TylerL - I'm on a working to a deadline at the mo... I'll pm you when I've got time to share and we can talk more about this - do you skype?
 
All you need for a designer is a project agreement in terms of legal documents. I'd be happy to email you a few templates that other designers / programmers have used with me for other projects.

Otherwise, it depends if you plan on doing work for offline or online businesses. If you are meeting people online and doing work for them then you need to put together some basic info.

For me the 2 most important things when working with a designer is 1 skill and 2 communication. If they are professional when thinking about their communication habits then I don't want to work with them. I don't have time to work with a designer who doesn't get back to me for 3 days because they were out partying or didn't feel like it.

Online: Put together a basic pdf flyer that is like a short brochure. Make it personal and professional. Make your contact info easy to find.

Portfolio
Pricing: general
Skills list
Contact info

Offline: Personally this is where the most money is. However, you've got to really work to find clients. Especially because of your age a lot of business owners may not take you seriously but if you act professional and get one to work with you, others will follow.

Same as above
Business cards
 
Set me up with your portfolio. I'd like to take a look. I was lucky enough to have people employing me when I was 'underage', and I have no problem paying it forward when I can.

Josh
 
Tyler,

Here's the basic breakdowns of what it takes to be perceived as a successful individual and businessman, even @ age 17. I know because I was working for a major dot-com developer at that age, and more than 1 client dropped their jaw when they saw me at that age walk in to the conference room.

- Convey professionalism throughout EVERY interaction. This means - don't add slang on to your conversations ("What's up dude?"), write every email carefully and with NO instant messenger shorthand ("I will find this out and BRB"), and make sure all background distractions are off or shut out ("Oh, sorry, that noise in the background is my girlfriend is watching MTV right now"). Sadly, remove as much personality from your interactions until your client understands that you're a PROFESSIONAL first and your age is irrelevant.

- Create high quality identity products - business cards, letterhead (both digital and print), envelopes, brochures, marketing materials, etc. Spend a significant amount of time on these materials, because oftentimes someone will interact with your logo or brand before they interact with you. If it's a crappy presentation, it will reflect on you directly. Also, create a high quality voicemail prompt, and be sure to have a separate line that your clients call versus your friends. It should be something along the lines of "Thank you for calling Tyler [lastname] of [company name]. I'm sorry I can't take your call, but if you'd leave your name and number, and a brief message I will return your call as soon as possible." No gimmicks, no bullshit.

- You have to act "as if". If you don't know what that means, go watch the movie Boiler Room. Act "as if" you're a 35 year old veteran designer, and your clients (especially over the phone) will perceive that - without asking you. Act "as if" you've worked on thousands of projects just like theirs. This isn't really lying, it's simply not offerring up any clues during a phone call that you're younger than they think you are (or ought to be).

- Honesty is huge. If someone does ask you how old you are, answer them. If you are in over your head on a project, admit as much. That's probably the biggest failure a younger entrepreneur has versus an older one. An older one has already learned that a client appreciates truth rather than sporadic delays and setbacks.

- Write formal proposals & agreements for everything. In this regard, you might want to consider a lawyer, but only if you think that it's actually necessary (ie, your client seems like a stickler). In most cases, you'll be fine if you simply outline the project ahead of time, including time & cost estimates, and then send it to them as a PDF in your company letterhead. The front page should be a title page, the 2nd+ page should be the description of the project, the second to last page should be a complete cost & time breakdown, and the final page should be a client agreement. The client agreement should be signed by you before you send it to them, and if they approve the project as outlined, they simply sign it and fax it back to you. Oh yeah, get an eFax.

- Recognize the fact that yes, some people will not be able to see past your age and won't want to hire you. Don't fight too many battles up hill, you'll get jaded. Pick some low-hanging fruit to start off with, and ALWAYS ask your satisfied clients for referrals. For most people in your situation, after a year of business you probably won't even need to market yourself - your clients will be buzzing with positive things to say about you whenever anyone asks "hey, do you know anyone that can do XYZ?"

In terms of being a cannuk, I have no idea what it takes or what is different versus setting up a business in California. In CA it's pretty straightforward - you get a business license from your local city hall, file a DBA with your county clerk and newspaper, and inform the IRS that you're establishing a business to request an EIN. At that point, with your DBA completed you can setup a bank account and the business can send and receive funds separately from your personal accounts. Like I said, I have no idea what is the same or different about that process in Canada vs. America. I DO know that in most instances in America, you have to be 18 to sign a legally binding contract, however there are exceptions, and even then you can use your parents or older sibling or trusted older 3rd party proxy to do some of those things for you.

Good luck man. Try lots of techniques and see what works best for you, and continue to look at the big picture and the long-term prospects.
 
Dave, not to derail or anything, but I recently got my business license, I was never told that I needed to inform the IRS, I was under the understanding that I could simply take my business license to my local bank and open a business checking account, is this not true? Im In California as well..
 
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