Almost a year without it

By that rationale if you just took neither, you'd still be at neutral. I never got the idea of taking uppers, but also taking downers to offset the uppers. WTF??

Different drugs impact on different parts of the nervous system, so mixing uppers and downers is a way of mitigating side effects you don't want. For example a speedball, when someone injects heroin mixed with speed, to get the high of heroin without the drowsiness, etc. (Of course that's a drastic example, and make a tiny mistake and you're pretty much dead.)

It's not a black and white thing, different drugs all have different pathways and act on the nervous system in different ways.

E.g. mixing alcohol and amphetamines, you can drink much more without feeling drunk, yet you do become more social etc, it's supposedly quite bizarre. The problem with doing that is that as the amphetamines wear off, you can end up with alcohol poisoning due to the depressive effect of the alcohol alone, etc...

The same goes for people who take a ton of amphetamines and then take anti depressants when they begin to crash.

It's all about maximising the good effects of the upper / downer and minimising the bad ones. Weed for ex. could potentially take the edge off of an amphetamine high by chilling you out a bit, getting rid of the shakes, anxiety, etc..
 


I used to order 2-FMA (2-Fluoromethamphetamine) and 4-FA (4-Fluoroamphetamine) for really really cheap, and they were pretty badass, but I got worried about the side effects from doing research chemicals and never ordered again. I've been considering attempting to see a doctor and get an adderal script though, would be pretty killer.
 
Caffeine pills illegal, what are you talking about? Do you use caffeine as an euphemism for something else?

They're illegal in several countries as lame as it is. Nanny states don't want you staying up past your bedtime.
 
Not to mention some of the shit bought online is counterfeit and may be harmful Counterfeit Medicine

Even a case of counterfeit adderall FDA warns consumers about counterfeit version of Teva's Adderall

Yeah it's pretty sketchy when your dealing with some company buying from some chemists in china lol, I think what I got was legit from what I read in experience reports, but due to the fact there is no studies whatsoever on humans.. I was a bit bothered. Could be totally harmless stuff, but I'd rather be cautious. Either way, any form of amphetamine is neurotoxic (permanent damage to your brain) I do believe, but I could be wrong.
 
Also, if the come down is anything like cocaine then I don't want it. When doing these 'stimulant' drugs I always feel like I'm just burning through brain fuel at double the rate and then it takes a week to charge up the batteries. Depression and apathy for 1 week all for the sake of a few hours high. Not worth it for me. Wish caffeine pills weren't illegal. We used to buy these otc back in the day and 10 of those would keep you going all night.

The come down is nothing near as bad as cocaine. I'm (hopefully) going to be getting my addy prescription in a couple weeks, I plan on limiting my intake to at most 20mg/day (personally I can feel the effects pretty good at only 10mg). IMO anything more than 20-30mg/day is asking for trouble.
 
^ Haven't been able to get them in Thailand, which is crazy considering the other stuff these illegal pharmacies dish out. Couldn't get any in Norway and Denmark either. You can probably buy guarana with caffeine online legally, but not at the pharmacist.
 
There are different versions generic vs. non-generic, and there can be a noticeable difference depending on which you take. Also keep in mind the dosing.

But overall, it will put you on a new level of grind mode.

I received mine recently, and it didn't take long for my body to get fairly used to it.

I think the most beneficial plan of attack is to use it a few weekends out of the month. Just enough to really benefit while preventing your body from getting addicted and overshadowing your "off-time" productivity.

.Hack's fucked in regards to that advice though. One does not simply "save adderral".
 
^ Haven't been able to get them in Thailand, which is crazy considering the other stuff these illegal pharmacies dish out. Couldn't get any in Norway and Denmark either. You can probably buy guarana with caffeine online legally, but not at the pharmacist.
Wow, just looked that up: Thailand bans caffeine - Salon.com

That law makes a lot of sense.

Can't even find any on Ebay Thailand (using Google Translate for the word for caffeine)
 
Its not a long term solution. For anyone thinking this will solve your problems; forget about it. If you watch porn instead of working now; you'll watch even more porn on these meth pills and get even less shit done.

I get more shit done overtime by consistently working at a steady pace vs having sporadic moments of productivity.

Just admit it. You're doing it cause it feels good and our work can boring as shit at times.