Merging an authority blog into an ecomm site

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So the company I work for has an external SEO company come in about once a year to look at what's been going on and offer some "fresh" suggestions. I haven't yet seen the full report, but this time around it sounds like they're suggesting we merge our authority blog on one domain into the main ecomm site domain "for SEO purposes".

So I can see the advantage of having fresh content on the main domain as an advantage, but that's about it. We don't get a ton of backlinks so that would be a negligible advantage going forward.

Disadvantages I see is losing an authority site that points directly to the ecomm site for half of the articles and all the SEO it provides.

I should probably just wait for the full report, but I thought I'd see what thoughts anybody had on this idea of theirs. I'm not a fan, but maybe I'm missing something.
 


"for SEO purposes"

Stop right there. Ask them kindly to be specific about what they mean by this, because that's just horse-shit without any data & fact to back it up. They may as well say "move your building closer to the river to improve your product quality."
 
"for SEO purposes"

Stop right there. Ask them kindly to be specific about what they mean by this, because that's just horse-shit without any data & fact to back it up. They may as well say "move your building closer to the river to improve your product quality."

Exactly, I told my boss I needed more details of their idea before I'd move on it. They have a track record of suggesting stupid ideas, but I know when to pick my battles.

I think it's to your advantage to have the blog on the main domain.


Any particular reason(s) why?

Just move it over and 301... what's the big deal?


The original people who set it up did some stupid stuff with permalinks that took a lot of work to make operable. When we just changed hosting companies even things broke. There's a lot of custom code behind some custom post types that I'm a little concerned about. None of it is insurmountable, but kind of a pain in the ass.
 
Any particular reason(s) why?
Two reasons.

1. You're not fooling anyone with your blog on a different domain. You may be able to take advantage of something in the algo which sees it as a completely unique domain, and you also may not. Either way, I don't think it's the advantage you think it is.

2. Consolidating everything to one website helps your brand. Spreading out your content isn't in the interest of your clients, and doesn't help make your business as "thick" as I think they need to be online these days.

hth
 
Two reasons.

1. You're not fooling anyone with your blog on a different domain. You may be able to take advantage of something in the algo which sees it as a completely unique domain, and you also may not. Either way, I don't think it's the advantage you think it is.

2. Consolidating everything to one website helps your brand. Spreading out your content isn't in the interest of your clients, and doesn't help make your business as "thick" as I think they need to be online these days.

hth

See - now this is the kind of reasoning I would expect this SEO company to at least put forward rather than just "for SEO purposes". I'm not entirely convinced that it matters too much as long as they're both intrinsically linked in a clear manner - I don't think people take much note of the address bar when they use menu, but then I can't immediately think of an advantage to having them on different domains competing with each other for SERP position for the same brand.

I don't like 'SEO companies' giving just generic statements like that without justifying it.
 
I have a friend who ran a very successful blog/resource site and he merged it in his money site. So far it has been working great for him, been almost an year or two since he did it. ( Many would have probably guessed by know who I am talking about)
 
Why wouldn't you have them both on one site? There's tons of reasons, both seo and non-seo to have it all under one domain.

For one thing, every link to your blog posts will bring in PR which'll be better spread over your site if everything's on one domain. If your blog isn't getting many links, then what's the point in it? Clearly no one's reading it, or it's not engaging with anyone.

Another, it's confusing to users for the domain to change as they browse a site. The only possible downside IMO is that if you have posts/pages on each domain that target the same keywords, you could potentially lose some double listings.

As earlier suggested, just 301 every blog post to its new location on the new domain. I'm not sure why an SEO company would need to explain it in much more detail, it's a pretty obvious thing to me that should have been done from the beginning. Using multiple domains for one company each with their own site is retarded for your brand image, unless they're separate marketing campaigns, so e.g. Ferrari create a micro site for a new car they've launched.
 
Two reasons.

1. You're not fooling anyone with your blog on a different domain. You may be able to take advantage of something in the algo which sees it as a completely unique domain, and you also may not. Either way, I don't think it's the advantage you think it is.

2. Consolidating everything to one website helps your brand. Spreading out your content isn't in the interest of your clients, and doesn't help make your business as "thick" as I think they need to be online these days.

hth

Excellent points, except we are "fooling" tons of people. Our company isn't the most loved in our industry because the small mom & pops can't/won't compete and they're very vocal. We get tons of people sharing our stuff on Facebook/Twitter/etc who will also be the same people who say "That company is evil!". Good points to consider though, thank you.

but then I can't immediately think of an advantage to having them on different domains competing with each other for SERP position for the same brand.

That's the thing, the ecomm site sells cogs, the blog talks about cog news, how best to use a cog to start a fire/repel zombies, ways to turn a cog into a toy for kids, etc. The ecomm site is set up great from an SEO perspective, but it's all specific products and just product descriptions. The blog has the super longtail keywords that people are searching for randomly and as they're reading, the links in the posts go to the ecomm site. So while the ecomm site may rank #1 for "cogs" and the blog isn't in the top 100, the blog may rank #1 for "why you should own a blue cog" which drives back to the ecomm site.

If your blog isn't getting many links, then what's the point in it? Clearly no one's reading it, or it's not engaging with anyone.

Another, it's confusing to users for the domain to change as they browse a site. The only possible downside IMO is that if you have posts/pages on each domain that target the same keywords, you could potentially lose some double listings.

As earlier suggested, just 301 every blog post to its new location on the new domain. I'm not sure why an SEO company would need to explain it in much more detail, it's a pretty obvious thing to me that should have been done from the beginning. Using multiple domains for one company each with their own site is retarded for your brand image, unless they're separate marketing campaigns, so e.g. Ferrari create a micro site for a new car they've launched.

Links do not equal readership or engagement. We're consistently getting a few million uniques per month on the blog, at least 50 comments per post, a metric shit-ton of social interaction, and hundreds of email subscribers per week.

Do you really think people get confused when the URL changes? I know when I look at a service in BST and click to buy I don't think "WHOA WTF JUST HAPPENED!?" when the domain changes, but will admit I'm an "advanced internet user" (ha).

I'd agree, it should have been done from the beginning, but we're not at the beginning, we're 6 years into a blog with at least 3 posts per day. And we keep the branding as consistent as possible across both sites, so if the ecomm is CogWorks, the blog is CogNews by CogWorks.

I guess I'm not completely understanding why it's beneficial to shut down a high authority site in an obviously related niche that can provide tons of backlinks (yes, I understand the diminishing returns since they're all from the same domain) to the money site. Wouldn't two high authority sites be better than one?
 
I guess I'm not completely understanding why it's beneficial to shut down a high authority site in an obviously related niche that can provide tons of backlinks (yes, I understand the diminishing returns since they're all from the same domain) to the money site. Wouldn't two high authority sites be better than one?

Wouldn't one super-high authority site be better than two less-high authority siteS?

Your BST example is different. People expect to go external for that, they know WF isn't providing the service. You're not shutting the site down, because you're redirecting every post to the new post location if it's done right. The posts will still rank just fine, and you bring all your authority onto one domain rather than splitting it over two .

I'm still not sure how you can get 50 comments a day and tons of engagement without acquiring links. People tweet about you, there's links in tweets. Bloggers must mention your blog posts on occasion, etc.. Anything with that much activity will be getting links.
 
Interesting to note that Trulia and Zillow have got their blogs on separate domains
 
I'm not sure why an SEO company would need to explain it in much more detail, it's a pretty obvious thing to me that should have been done from the beginning.

To be fair - it shouldn't take an SEO company to point that out. I personally like to know all the tiny details of why something is recommended before I invest time/money but then I'm a sucker for having to know the engineering behind everything!

Too much micro-management sometimes I guess.
 
There is a ton of interesting information here, both from the OP and those with different views. Personally, I would be too nervous to merge the two. It seems like you have two authority sites that are dependent on Google, so i'm always nervous about the 301s that you'd have to set up and what it would do in the long term.

My opinion doesn't count for much, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it. You're getting targeted traffic from both authority sites, and obviously you're maintaining both of those properties correctly. You're pulling targeted traffic and building a base of subscribers from the blog, and you're linking your products from that authority site to another authority site.

Sounds like you have this well covered. Keep the authority sites and don't migrate anything. What you've done is actually build two brands for one company, and in my mind, that's pretty fucking sweet.
 
I'm using this strategy on few drop shipping sites.
What I do is quality niche auto blog that report industry news.
It's readable, it is duplicate content with links to external related sites.

Over time it get many links on auto pilot from ping backs it send to source sites.

And over time it start getting traffic to those inner pages of auto blogs.
All time main header navigation point to store categories, so some of traffic to those pages convert into sales.

I didn't see any problem about seo with this method !
 
I'm still not sure how you can get 50 comments a day and tons of engagement without acquiring links. People tweet about you, there's links in tweets. Bloggers must mention your blog posts on occasion, etc.. Anything with that much activity will be getting links.

We do get the occasional social media shares, yes, but mostly Facebook with Google+ coming in second. The occasional stumble, reddit, and pinterest help. Our niche doesn't have a ton of bloggers and most of those people consider themselves competitors so they're unlikely to link to us.

Sounds like you have this well covered. Keep the authority sites and don't migrate anything. What you've done is actually build two brands for one company, and in my mind, that's pretty fucking sweet.

That's kind of what I was thinking. I'm just not sure in this case that 1+1=2.
 
I think it is good advice. It shows they are keeping up with the times. A few years ago it would have been stupid, now, it is the right way to go.

Just build quality content my ass!