Faking Page Rank

[bubbles]

How To Fake Google PageRank Numbers

Does that acutally work?

When I faked my page rank it was on accident, I pointed a domain that was being used in a web design contest to their servers which was a PR4, then I pointed it back to my server and used it a few years later.

 

[Red_Virus]

But Faked pagerank can be easily caught ! there are various tools available. I will try this on one of my domains.

 

[Jon]

I have a bunch of fake PR domains I picked up in a domain portfolio acquisition. They actually showed up as REAL on a lot of the major PageRank legitimate checking scripts, but Scott showed me one place and it showed up as all fake. I didn't buy them for the PR anyhow, so it's not the end of the world, but the seller must have known they were fake, and even so, listed them with having valid PageRank as a perk to buy them.

Just some advice... Faking PageRank is way easy, but only when Google plays along and updates their imaginary green bar. You can definitely make bank off of people not knowing about it, but it's not exactly tough to catch, and if you're caught, there's not much you can do to deny it or say you didn't know. Your rep will be burned pretty damn fast, so you have to ask yourself, is it really worth it? (A lot of DP scammers would say yes, but normal people, however BH you consider yourself would say no, because reputation is tough to build but so easy to take away).

By the way.. people should seriously re-evaluate their stance just based on the fact that if you could fake PR so easily, and it doesn't do anything for you in the SERPs on Google, then why should "real" PR have any effect either? I'm not just saying this for my health... PAGERANK HAS BEEN DEAD SINCE AT LEAST THE FLORIDA UPDATE IN NOV 2003. Why can't people just accept this reality already?!

 

[Red_Virus]

Yes I agree with u Jon on that, There are lots of guys on DP that are selling fake pagerank domains these days & then finally are busted out, when shown the proof that pagerank is fake, also one easy method is to just do a back link check on these domains, most fake pagerank domains will have 0 backlinks.

 

[Jon]

Yes I agree with u Jon on that, There are lots of guys on DP that are selling fake pagerank domains these days & then finally are busted out, when shown the proof that pagerank is fake, also one easy method is to just do a back link check on these domains, most fake pagerank domains will have 0 backlinks.

Yeah but you can't rely on the Google link: command because it's gone in the same direction as PageRank being accurate. Even though I LOVE the Yahoo Site Explorer tool, it's one of the most accurate backlink scales available from the engines, but still, when I do cross-referencing of results from the TR research, I use a whole cache of different tools, free ones, paid ones and custom ones, and almost none of them are sync'ed with eachother, or never show the full backlink story.

I have my doubts that Google will ever man up to any of this, ever. They seem too focused on keeping their stock price insanely high for the time being (perhaps if there is another tech crash, they think it won't plunge as far down as the others?) and getting into other unrelated markets to make bank. Poor Google, losing sight of what first made them great, and trading it in for billions.... not that I wouldn't do the same, but they are just fucking over their loyal army more and more every day/month, so hopefully this will spark interest in the other engines, and give them that kick in the ass to take over and start producing and sharing results we can all use, instead of hiding them. Maybe wishful thinking on my part though.

 

[bubbles]

I was thinking about it more for link building purposes. When I had a myspace resource site I realized that all that those webmasters care about is PR. The link exchange thread titles would be something along the lines of "PR 5 looking for PR 4+ link exchanges"... They all just looked at the bar without ever checking if the PR was even real. A lot of the time they didn't even care about traffic, so you could get a load of free traffic if you had the right PR. I figure that people are much more likely not to check PR in a link exchange.

I agree that PR is dead, but I think a lot of people don't realize it yet and that high PR sites still have their uses.

@Jon, any insight into making it harder to catch like you talked about in your earlier reply?

 

[tigertom]

I think PR is useful. At the very least it says: "Google thinks this site is OK", and gives it a numerical value. PR in itself doesn't affect where you appear in the SERPs. Number and quality of backlinks do. If you have a nice backlink profile, with a few PR4,5s, or higher, that'll help.

Fixating on PR is stupid, but DP'ers do it because they can charge more for their backlinks to innocent newbies.

 

[aim]

Jon, claiming that PageRank is dead is a pretty ambiguous statement. If it were 'dead', than Google would no longer continue to update PageRank data.

PageRank is a measure of link popularity; that's it. It's a simple metric.

Outbound links from a high-pr page will have a positive effect on the recieveing pag, however it has nothing to do with how well a page will rank in the serps.

It's neither dead nor alive; it just is.

 

[bitsdawg]

But what we are saying is that awful green thing on the toolbar is worseless. It hasn't been updated - at least on any of my 2 dozen domains - for 6 months.

I have 3 month old domains which pull in Google SE traffic and they must have page rank, but the bar is grey. I have been working on older sites and am sure they pull in traffic on many more keywords than 6 months ago, but the green bar is stagnant.

What we are saying is... PR may have use, but you cannot tell me what the PR of ANY page is, and so it is useless in that regard.

You cannot show me a tool that will give me the pagerank of my site, but only a tool that will show what it was 6 months ago. This is like astronomy -- the green bar is just the light from a distant sun.

 

[bubbles]

All I'm saying that is even though its not a good gauge of how you are doing SEO wise poeple still consider it a huge factor when doing link exchanges, and FOR THAT REASON ALONE, I think its worth faking. Just to make link building easier.

Especially since nobody ever verifies a pagerank in a link exchange.

 

[bitsdawg]

Why not? It isn't real anyway. If I gave out the pagerank that shows in tools or the toolbar it probably is wrong. I have no idea. From what I've read, it is probably a good sign that sites DID NOT get updated last time.

Sorry, Bubbles, I really wasn't responding to you. I have just read posts on different forums from so many people who think the green thing is valid. And yes, you can probably find a difference between a PR 2 and a PR 8. But a PR 3 and a PR 4 -- probably not.

 

[ScottDaMan]

Do not depend on PageRank for anything. Like it has been said, PR hasn't been updated in 6 months globally. Therefore, you might be buying into a link or site with a legit-showing PR6 which might actually be a PR2 now.

PR *is* dead until the damn thing is updated like once a month as it used to be. Until then, there's just no point using it as a measurement. That's like using Alexa to measure a sites traffic. Even if it were to be updated, it is still not worth it.

Had I known PR was going to freeze for six months like this, I would have purchased some PR8 links for a few sites and then ride my PR6+ site for this long selling $30 links. That's my point, others ARE taking advantage of you.

Bottom line, FUCK PR. Move along.

How? Here's a thought. When reviewing a site for purchasing a link, check backlinks on Yahoo (most accurate) and then quickly determine what the site's primary keywords are. Do a quick search on google, how do they rank? Are they top 20? Yes? Then do what you gotta do to get a link on that site. Triangle link exchange, sponsor, buy a link, link beg, whatever.

You know, the old way we used to do popularity building before the fucking google toolbar was released?

Oh well, this will fall on deaf ears. Keep worrying about PR ya sheeple.