Another n00b in need of advice...

FiyaBlazer

FiyaBlazer

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Hey guys,

I would like to say that I'm happy to have come across this forum, I've been doing a lot of research here and have found some great posts. So thanks for that. I hope to eventually be able to contribute some value in return, once I am actually successful.

I'm a bit confused at the moment on how to actually get started on a very limited budget. I'm basically just a regular guy in his 20s, with no specific skills to speak of really. What I do have is the determination and a burning desire to succeed in this business. I've had some small success here and there, but nothing to write home about and have been at this for a number of years - I refuse to give up (I'm stubborn as fuck). I've decided to start from scratch again and hoping to find some clarity from this forum.

What did you do when you first started out? Were any of you in a similar position to me?

All responses are appreciated. Thanks.

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here, i'll make your life nice and easy for you.

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You might be stubborn but you definitely aren't hardworking. How do I know? You're asking this general question to which answers won't bring you any closer to your goals.

This is something that can be fixed though.

What you need right now is:
- do more research
- study marketing/seo/advertising/programming also known as building your skillset
- implement consistency ie: stop messing around and commit to this
 
JoseArmando said:
You might be stubborn but you definitely aren't hardworking. How do I know? You're asking this general question to which answers won't bring you any closer to your goals.

This is something that can be fixed though.

What you need right now is:
- do more research
- study marketing/seo/advertising/programming also known as building your skillset
- implement consistency ie: stop messing around and commit to this
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Hey Jose,

All of those things that you just mentioned (apart from programming), I have done, with consistency. What do you mean by messing around? I made that post hoping someone would give me a serious reply (which you have) and I appreciate that.

I still don't understand quite what you're saying though? I've read tons of threads on this forum, other forums about SEO etc. You learn by doing though? Anyway, I've taken your advice on board.

Thanks again for your reply.
 
You learn by doing though?
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Yes, and for that, you need a budget, to get anywhere. This isn't 2003. There are hundreds of thousands of people who are like you, trying to make it. The real question is: Are you able and willing to do MORE than most of them?

If you don't have money to spend on your IM education (links, proxies, tools, infos, domains, webhosting, content) you need to get some.

Even if that means sacrificing comfort. Skip eating out, skip drinking, skip going to the movies, skip whatever hobby you have. IM is now your new and only hobby to spend time and energy on.

You need to gain traction and make a profit as fast as possible to sustain your momentum and motivation. I don't care if it means selling your body to creepy old men. Just do what you can do and stop talking about it.

edit: Don't skip psychedelics.
 
I have money for - Domain, Hosting, Autoresponder.

Everything else you just said I don't have money for but I can acquire it. Saying that, do I really need proxies and backlink packages when starting out?

I can do that shit manually... and yes I can work from 7am until 3am. It's not a problem...
 
You do need a battle plan first.

What do you want to do? There are many options....

- Niche sites
- PPC
- Offering a product or service
- Gaming Social Media for sales & traffic
etc etc

What do you actually want to do?
 
What I meant is if you're at it for a couple years with no tangible results you obviously aren't working as hard on it as you think or you have a really bad strategy. Maybe start logging exactly how many hours a day you work on internet marketing
 
Jose,

As much as I appreciate your advice, I don't think you understand what I mean. I have been at it for a couple years, but haven't taken enough action. Yes, I know that's my responsibility and I'm ready now to give it 100%

In other words, I haven't actually been trying a lot of shit in 2 years, just learning a lot, which is good but as you know makes no money. I haven't really had a strategy, just trying different things. I realize I need focus now.

FB
 
kryaa said:
You do need a battle plan first.

What do you want to do? There are many options....

- Niche sites
- PPC
- Offering a product or service
- Gaming Social Media for sales & traffic
etc etc

What do you actually want to do?
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PPC for sure - no doubt about it... PPC - affiliate offers.
 
PPC for sure - no doubt about it... PPC - affiliate offers.
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Ok then, what are your precise next steps you need to take in order to start in PPC? What exactly is keeping you from starting your first ppc campaign ?
 
kryaa said:
Ok then, what are your precise next steps you need to take in order to start in PPC? What exactly is keeping you from starting your first ppc campaign ?
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Bankroll and fear. Mainly funds though. I will get the necessary funds and report back when I've actually tested a campaign. I read a thread on here that basically says even $4000 is too little. What about FB ads or PoF? Surely I could start off small and work my way up. The one thing I'm willing to do is work my ass off. That's my skill.

As for precise steps kyraa I have no idea. I'll make a start and ask for feedback.

Cheers
 
Also, I'm willing to write articles, build backlinks etc for your sites. I don't have enough rep or whatever to PM but my Skype is - johnny99652.
 
FiyaBlazer said:
PPC for sure - no doubt about it... PPC - affiliate offers.
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FiyaBlazer said:
Bankroll and fear. Mainly funds though.
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Is it me, or did you totally set yourself up for failure by picking the route that requires the one thing you don't possess?

Also, if it is only money that's left to deal with, that means that you have picked offers, segmented a target market, and developed a site to pitch on?

If that's so, then you have the ability to jack social media traffic to your site, allowing you to test the platform while you save for a real campaign!

Get to work
 
When I first started I had no clue what I was doing other than "I guess I make a site and review stuff, or something?"

Thankfully shortly after I joined WF, lukep posted this http://www.wickedfire.com/enlighten...post-easy-bulletproof-long-term-biz-plan.html which is essentially "The Roadmap to Babby's First Dollar With Adsense". It's pretty dated now, but it taught me a lot. I can remember when I didn't even know what an EMD was (I can even remember asking "wtf is an EMD"), so to my noob brain a lot of what he wrote there was completely new. The sites I made back then never made very much, but I learned a lot about making sites, how search works, and things like that. Even if I wasn't earning, I was doing something, which is infinitely better than doing nothing.

Anyways one of the first ways I actually made "good" money was by getting a VPS from Windows SEO VPS Servers - BHS Solutions and using it to make and sell social bookmarks and web 2.0s and shit on Fiverr. Totally peasant status but I would make $300-$400 a month that way which back then was "a lot".

So there you go OP. Have fun!
 
Weeds makes a good point. I too would start with what i CAN do, not with what i think could be most profitable. I don't judge though, and a plan is better than no plan. If you want to go ahead with PPC, then you need to find a way to aquire enough cash to do decent testing.

For PPC you don't only need cash, but a lot of optimism and willingness to land flat on your face for a long time. Every environment which is highly scalable favours those with massive resources be it money or experience in optimizing the system.

Ask yourself the question: What can I do? ME...ONE person?

I mean, you could start as a content writer working night shifts for months and then invest everything back into your first campaigns. You could be profitable after a first month even if that just means having aquired a skillset...

Please, don't sell shitty SEO services if you don't know what you are doing. Learn the skills first.

That been said, i personally would suggest offering a service of some kind first, or becoming a freelancer if your work discipline is your biggest asset atm. Then, branch out from there,learn more skills....leverage other workers, devlop a vision for your business.

Or don't. Are you even an entrepeneur, or do you "just" want to make money? If you simply need cash: Content writing, social media management, programing, Marketing Services etc. Perhaps then invest in some sites on the side or build up that bankroll to start ppc.

Small steps first, big steps as soon as possible.
 
Hi, when I started off, i was all over the place in terms of what to promote, then I learned about sticking to one thing and become good at it, also specifically focusing in on a niche, rather than trying to do everything.
To start off with, i went with the email marketing model, as its been a proven profit maker. I'd first find a profitable niche, not too broad, for example i'm currently in the traffic niche, then I would then either create a free report product, or even plr product for lead magnet, create a landing page or a few to do split testing, add some free tracking tools to each page, then depending on your ad budget, you can use free or paid methods for driving traffic to the page and build subscribers, i started off with free, like Craig list, backpage etc, then scaled up with FB, POF, DirectPPV etc.
 
Weeds said:
Is it me, or did you totally set yourself up for failure by picking the route that requires the one thing you don't possess?

Also, if it is only money that's left to deal with, that means that you have picked offers, segmented a target market, and developed a site to pitch on?

If that's so, then you have the ability to jack social media traffic to your site, allowing you to test the platform while you save for a real campaign!

Get to work
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"did you totally set yourself up for failure by picking the route that requires the one thing you don't possess"

I said I could acquire the money for it - which I'm currently doing now. So what you're saying is that I shouldn't answer a question honestly, and lie about which avenue I want to persue in IM?

Dude asked me what route I want to take. If I had no budget I still couldn't even go the SEO route. So what would you recommend? I asked whether I should start with FB ads and PoF? I can get a few grand in a couple of months - lets say 3 grand. Is that enough to start PPC?
 
mikeshinobi said:
When I first started I had no clue what I was doing other than "I guess I make a site and review stuff, or something?"

Thankfully shortly after I joined WF, lukep posted this http://www.wickedfire.com/enlighten...post-easy-bulletproof-long-term-biz-plan.html which is essentially "The Roadmap to Babby's First Dollar With Adsense". It's pretty dated now, but it taught me a lot. I can remember when I didn't even know what an EMD was (I can even remember asking "wtf is an EMD"), so to my noob brain a lot of what he wrote there was completely new. The sites I made back then never made very much, but I learned a lot about making sites, how search works, and things like that. Even if I wasn't earning, I was doing something, which is infinitely better than doing nothing.

Anyways one of the first ways I actually made "good" money was by getting a VPS from Windows SEO VPS Servers - BHS Solutions and using it to make and sell social bookmarks and web 2.0s and shit on Fiverr. Totally peasant status but I would make $300-$400 a month that way which back then was "a lot".

So there you go OP. Have fun!
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Thanks bro, but 300 - 400 a month is about £250 in the UK. Mcdonalds would be a better option lol. That's a quarter of the minimum wage. Not sure if serious...
 
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