Anyone Thinking of Investing in Oil?

there is going to be a metric fuck load of money made from this. Dont worry about OPEC. They are not going to completely expose themselves with a war they created. They are making money no matter what the price is. Up, down, or sideways. It doesn't matter when you're playing by your own rules.

OPEC countries will all be making money no matter what the price of crude is. The question is will they be making enough money to fund their expensive social programs and subsidies that help keep their citizens content?

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Countries like Venezuela don't exactly have a lot of room for error and need high oil prices to keep paying their bills.
 


OPEC countries will all be making money no matter what the price of crude is. The question is will they be making enough money to fund their expensive social programs and subsidies that help keep their citizens content?

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Countries like Venezuela don't exactly have a lot of room for error and need high oil prices to keep paying their bills.

Dont worry the Saudis will still be able to fund their terror operations... I mean "social programs". You have to remember OPEC is just like the UN. The US does whatever the fuck it wants and then the UN goes along with it, no matter how it affects the "lesser" countries.

My guess is they have been shorting the shit out of oil and making hundreds of millions (maybe hundreds of billions) on the way down. And they will do the same thing on the way up. Think about it. If you controlled the price of oil wouldnt you do the same?
 
The Saudis are a side act in this drama. This is a big stick showdown and the main players are US, Russia, China and eventually India, Brazil and Israel (down the road).

Watch the eagle, the bear and the dragon. The Varsity players.
 
I have to give my broker a strike and a duration on those puts. They won't sell me a perpetual.

Your CL short call was at 90.32. It traded to 110 within 6 months of your call and then went nowhere for 3 1/2 years.

I did say "in due time" - at the time I was just seeing a large spike upward and it was a good bet the spike would not hold. Of course it held for a long time which is why I was advocating buying OTM Puts with "throw away money you will not miss". I figured someone could buy a LEAP Put every few months and just hold them. Cheap stuff that would act as a quiver full once the drop materialized.

It is like buying Car Insurance. You are paying $XXX amount and just losing it if not used, but one day, it can come in very handy.

If you had a quiver full of LEAP Puts, even though the first ones you had bought when I posted would have expired worthless, had you kept buying Cheap OTM ones, when the move happened, you would have cashed in.

Oil moving sharply downward was inevitable, at the time there were plenty talking of new discoveries, over supply, no real fundamental substantiation for the upward spike.

Paid $2.49 gallon in Brea, CA at the ARCO on the 57 and Imperial Hwy tonight. getting closer to my $1.45 dream every day.

So how much did you make on that advice? And is the same advise still valid on calls now that it's near the bottom?

I made nothing, because if I had invested followed my advice Oil would never go down and I did not want to do that to the world......
Anytime I stand to make $XM without a ton of work, it never happens - just not lucky like that.

One last thing, I would not bet on oil going back up, but then again I am nobody. It might, but it is not the same bet as it was on going down after a huge upward spike.
Oil should be $40/barrel.
 
looked into that, where do you see the cash? seems like a great dividend buy if you just look at the surface but below that, I don't see them being able to pay this and debt accrued.

As far as details go I could not say. A family member made the pick/did the research - I'm up 37% since I bought them last Friday.
 
Just buy deep ITM calls on the integrated oils. S&P will rally to 2025 over the next week and I'd expect to see Feb CL at $60/bbl and XOM touch $91.80.

SPX 2049 today, up 40.

XOM hit 90.70 in the US and traded nearly 92 in Europe.
 
SPX 2049 today, up 40.

XOM hit 90.70 in the US and traded nearly 92 in Europe.

come on man, I want to get my prick wet. Not the whole thing, maybe just the tip?????

I want to to make an impulse buy with zero research, based on the recommendation from a man called poopie.
 
My monthly nut for data alone is >$5K. My colo in Jersey is another 5. My ORC license is a 1/4 mil. I don't throw darts at a board.
 
My monthly nut for data alone is >$5K. My colo in Jersey is another 5. My ORC license is a 1/4 mil. I don't throw darts at a board.

wasn't trying to insult you, I was being dead fucking serious. Not looking for you to throw darts (my job), I was looking for a solid tip.
 
wasn't trying to insult you, I was being dead fucking serious. Not looking for you to throw darts (my job), I was looking for a solid tip.


S&P cash should not break 2068 tomorrow and I'd expect a bear-reversal on the daily. Nothing to speak of; 2055 target by Monday close. I trade var-swaps so I don't have a lot of single-name recommendations as I am not allowed to trade my personal account.
 
I'm looking at BP. I regret not buying when they had the gulf oil spill.

No, you should've regretted not buying HP ( Helmerich and Payne)
If you bought BP then you would've gone from ~$30 to ~$40ish... (25% since 2010)


HP you would have gone from ~$35 to ~$118 at it's peak! And it's ~$71 atm. (~100% atm, 330% at the peak July 2014, could've panic sold at $100 coming down and still made more money than BP did). Heck, could've made more from the dividends than BP (A Dividend Reinvestment Calculator for EVERY Stock (Including DCA!) - Don't Quit Your Day Job...)


PS - not my trade idea - was from Anton Kriel but the point still stands - don't trust the media - especially the financial media!