How Can We Save WF
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I'd pluck that chick's ass hairs with my teeth.
Sunnedly_Ass needs to step up his game...
I guess because it just doesn't feel like marketing and I can't make a living off it. Though I've been taking it more seriously lately and have gotten better. Would like to cut together full length movies or movie trailers someday.
Same here. Got into IM (SEO/AdCents mostly) a few years back. Failed over and over again.
The best thing is that I got my BS in CS and now I have a regular 9-5 which is my first job.
I've not given up on IM tho. Will try to succeed again.
Now that I have a "real" job I've learned how to appreciate things and definitely I'm getting back.
I joined in 2007. That was a quick 8 years of my life that just flashed by. I went from my late 20s to my mid 30s. Damn, I wish I could turn back time.
The landscape has changed. The acai/green tea generation has died out and long abandoned these halls.
But, I still love me some wickedfire. I have made a lot of amazing contacts here, and met some really good friends. While it will probably never be it's former glory, there is still gold in the older threads and lots of people here whom you can learn from.
The landscape has changed. The acai/green tea generation has died out and long abandoned these halls.
But, I still love me some wickedfire. I have made a lot of amazing contacts here, and met some really good friends. While it will probably never be it's former glory, there is still gold in the older threads and lots of people here whom you can learn from.
Same, I think I mainly failed because IM just isn't my thing. It's really boring IMO, not to condescend either, I know a lot of people here and in general probably have a knack for marketing, linkbuilding, getting up good content, ranking, generating leads and selling bullshit, but it's just not my thing.
Now I just code, a lot more interested in coding and selling crypters and shitty ebooks to noobs on SkidForums because it actually makes sense to me. I like spending my time on stuff that I KNOW will make me money, and offer me the option of a plush career in the future. Also appeal to my ADHD and do music production, trade crypto, read a lot and screw with Linux as well, I bounce around from productive activity to productive activity and try to fill my day with constructive hobbies.
I guess what I'm trying to say is that SEO is dead.
It's only really boring if you're an SEO jock grinding out mindless work. IM is quite fun when you actually decide to build a real business around it instead of playing the zero sum sandcastle SEO game.
Yup agreed 100% with this. At least for me, now being in this biz for 7 years it's just getting more fun with each year that passes. If you expand and grow your business there's always a new thing to tackle.
I've been an affiliate for most of that time and in the past two years we've started really working on our own products. It's an insanely interesting path and I could talk about stuff I learned for days. But I can also see how writing articles and building worthless mini sites all day long would suck the hell out of someone's soul.
Building up a product that's scalable from the get go and setting up processes in a way that they're as automated as possible is a hell of a lot more work than I anticipated but having it properly set up gives me a sense of pride and accomplishment. Knowing there's a fully automated marketing funnel and a heavily integrated backend is an amazing concept in itself, and building it was really rewarding. And there's still a ton of work to get done and a ton of stuff to optimize. So it'll keep getting better and better as we scale the project.
For me it's like magic. I'm sitting here behind my screen on a different freaking continent and on the other side of the world we've set up a whole business that people are ordering from - all from the comfort of my computer. How could that bore anyone that's remotely interested in IM/business?
I bailed on SEO and sold my biggest SEO sites just before the first animal update wiped rankings. I saw the writing on the wall, but I got lucky with my timing.
That being said, I still do SEO I just do it for large clients who pay on retainer. Not only is the money better, but doing SEO for established businesses is so much easier because most of the offpage stuff is already in place, and the onpage shit is normally a mess, but easy to fix. Easy peasy. Throw in a deep dive into their Analytics every month and you're a rock star.
I think it's a natural evolution for some folks on here, others.. not so much.
I look at my past history going from a web designer, to a web programmer, to a digital marketer, to a self-employed affiliate, to SaaS owner, to... well whatever is ahead.
This forum started out as an affiliate forum and still largely is. It pretty much only catered to my needs personally ( when I was a self-employed affiliate ) for largely 3-4 years.
That's not a dig at Wickedfire at all, it's just that as you move and grow as a person.. you have to find things that fit and supplement that growth. Right now I am personally just busy and interested in other things. The other things I am interested in aren't talked about or dealt with at Wickedfire today.
I look at my past history going from a web designer, to a web programmer, to a digital marketer, to a self-employed affiliate, to SaaS owner, to... well whatever is ahead.
This forum started out as an affiliate forum and still largely is. It pretty much only catered to my needs personally ( when I was a self-employed affiliate ) for largely 3-4 years.
That's not a dig at Wickedfire at all, it's just that as you move and grow as a person.. you have to find things that fit and supplement that growth. Right now I am personally just busy and interested in other things. The other things I am interested in aren't talked about or dealt with at Wickedfire today.
Forties were a long time ago, sneaking up on the 60's
Anyways the biggest thing that pissed me off about this place was all the little kids running around calling themselves "gay" or "queer" or whatever. That seems to have died down quite a bit so getting much better around here, but that for sure would be enough to turn off the majority who do not want to be caught on some queer message board when they are normal. That bug should have been squashed right away. Let keep this place profession without that shit, and do away with the info graphic cartoons so it looks more professional around here.
lol hahahaha bro I think you're in for the highest amount of dislikes in the history of WF.
Who gives a shit, not here for anyone to like me, just here to make money.
This thread is about how to save WF, not trying to please those that act like an idiot and drive away all the reasonable SEO's who want nothing to do with that gay shit.
