Freebooting - Interesting Business Model



It's not a sustainable business model in the long run.

This will only work for hit and run, you can still make some cash but if you think this will by you that Ferrari you always wanted, you're deluded.

If you can pull millions of views on YouTube you'll take down some easy cash, but how long before they flag your account for copyright and run ads against it without paying you?

In the long run the only ones who benefit is YT and FB.

Personally it's a waste of time, why spend all your time chasing a quick score here and there when you could actually be spending it building something you own, have 100% control over and will make you money for years and not days.

BTW if anyone actually tries this, let us know.

Break it down, the time it took, any expenses and your return.

If you work out the hourly rate, I bet McDonands pays better.

Side Note;

The stupidest thing about all of this is that it's a business model where you have no control. You don't own the content and you are at the whim of YT and FB.

It's retarded building a business on a foundation like that, house built on sand.

No one got rich working for some one else, and no one got rich selling shit they didn't have 100% control over.
 
Where's the business model?
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The business model is as follows:

1. Shoot Video with mildly viral potential for a band noone knows
2. Upload two versions of said Video
3. Boost one up with fake views
4. Recruit reddits neckbeard army to serve justice
5. Get posted everywhere (including Wickedfire)
6. Collect your monies
 
kryaa said:
The business model is as follows:

1. Shoot Video with mildly viral potential for a band noone knows
2. Upload two versions of said Video
3. Boost one up with fake views
4. Recruit reddits neckbeard army to serve justice
5. Get posted everywhere (including Wickedfire)
6. Collect your monies
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7. Pat yourself on the back for making $7 an hour.
 
acidie said:
It's not a sustainable business model in the long run.

This will only work for hit and run, you can still make some cash but if you think this will by you that Ferrari you always wanted, you're deluded.

If you can pull millions of views on YouTube you'll take down some easy cash, but how long before they flag your account for copyright and run ads against it without paying you?

In the long run the only ones who benefit is YT and FB.

Personally it's a waste of time, why spend all your time chasing a quick score here and there when you could actually be spending it building something you own, have 100% control over and will make you money for years and not days.

BTW if anyone actually tries this, let us know.

Break it down, the time it took, any expenses and your return.

If you work out the hourly rate, I bet McDonands pays better.

Side Note;

The stupidest thing about all of this is that it's a business model where you have no control. You don't own the content and you are at the whim of YT and FB.

It's retarded building a business on a foundation like that, house built on sand.

No one got rich working for some one else, and no one got rich selling shit they didn't have 100% control over.
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These same people created a traffic funnel to their website. ~2.7 million views is the number most websites wont ever see... and it's just that one video.

It's funny to see piracy with reversed roles though :)
 
fixie said:
These same people created a traffic funnel to their website. ~2.7 million views is the number most websites wont ever see... and it's just that one video.
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Not saying it doesn't work, just that it's short lived.

2.7 million means nothing, what's the CTR? whats the conversion rate? whats the ROI?

I could have a billion views but if its not converting so what?
 
kryaa said:
How does a marketing company make only 7$/hour for getting massive exposure for their client? This isn't about youtube monetization oO
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Congrats, you missed the point entirely. And the OP was talking about YT monetization.

But to answer your question, if you getting traffic this way for your "clients" you better hope you're getting more than $7 an hour, because when this shit back fires and you lose your client/job, your going need all the monies you got while you look for a new one.
 
Just recently became enlightened about this Freebooting issue - read an article somewhere that mentions celebrities as being huge offenders...

If the celebs aren't actually getting a cut of the Facebook ads around the videos they steal, they are putting links on the video page that directs viewers to where they can buy their CDs or songs on iTunes, etc.

Lots of celebrities have millions / tens of millions of fans on FB, so they can get a ton of views before the original creator even knows it's been swiped from their Youtube account.

In the case of the guy in the Ops video link, who had his (tattoo removal) video edited to remove all signs of his own information and sponsor's info, I think that would be a good candidate for litigation because there was direct action and intent to remove all signs of the original creator.

This harkness back to the old method of stealing popular YT videos and then re-uploading them into your own YT account, watermarked to with a url to your website or to an affiliate link.

Op's video link about Freebooting (embedding it here) - I thought it was quite well done! :

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6A1Lt0kvMA[/ame]
 
And the OP was talking about YT monetization.
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He was posting two links and wasn't talking about anything.

BTW, the reddit post got removed. Go figure.
 
Freebooting is killing ad revenues for websites.

I've been running a viral site for some time and it used to be that I would find a video, embed it on my site, and promote it on YouTube.

Chances were good that I'd get a good number of website clicks.

But now, it's like every other YouTube video is uploaded to FB in no time, and naturally gets a bazillion views and shares on FB (since it autoplays in newsfeeds).

The result is that my traffic is decimated.

I'll give you an example:

I found a video on Reddit yesterday that was absolutely perfect. It was barely a day old. I put it on my site and post to my FB pages with hundreds of thousands of fans.

Normally, a post like that would get me 30,000 to 50,000 pageviews to my site.

I got barely 1,000 pageviews.

It turns out that several pages had stripped the video from YouTube and uploaded it to FB. It had hundreds of thousands of shares and millions of views on FB already in less than a day.

So by the time I posted it, no one cared. And that has been the story with like 90% of my posts every day over the last month.

In the old days (meaning a few months ago), it wasn't that big of a deal if you waited a day to post something because, without autoplay vids in feeds, the chances of someone seeing a viral video elsewhere before they saw yours were much, much less. Now, it's over before you can start, except for very specific niches, some of which I'm in thank goodness.

And the terrible thing about all this is that no one makes money of these vids except FB since you can't really monetize a video upload.

Noawadays I have to work 5 times as hard to make half as much as I used to because of the freebooting crap and FB killing organic reach (FB really tightened the faucet in May, with my average reach per website link post dropping in half, if not more - remember when FB said last year they're going to emphasize links as opposed to photo posts? Yeah right. It's killing the reach of posts with links in them).

I can still make okay money off FB but I'm having to work around the clock now and it's just getting worse with each month.

I looked back 6 months ago and compared my reach then to now. Keep in mind that I have 50% more followers now than then. Anyways, 6 months ago 80% of my posts had a reach over 100,000 each. This month, less than 10% have that reach, despite my content getting better and more targeted.

And now FB is introducing their Instant Articles stuff, which is just going to give it more control and tighten the noose even further on monetizing content on one's own website.
 
fixie said:
These same people created a traffic funnel to their website. ~2.7 million views is the number most websites wont ever see... and it's just that one video.

It's funny to see piracy with reversed roles though :)
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2.7 million views is good if all you want is publicity. But if you're make a living off ads (ads on your YT vids or your own site), then these views are worthless since you don't get any of the ad money FB is making off these video uploads.

As for the person who mentioned putting a link in the status part of a video upload, those are close to worthless. People click links in statuses at an abysmal rate. The way it works is that people see these autoplay videos in their feed, watch them, and move on. Only a tiny miniscule percent bother to read and click on a link in the status.
 
@Jerry, uploading a video to FB vs. sharing a YouTube link (that auto embeds) is big in terms impression difference. FB is more generous with their own videos and it gets a lot more views instantly. People will upload a video and include a link. To get even more reach some people will comment with the link and like it so it shows at the top of the comments (when a link is in your post the reach is reduced).

Not saying it's right or wrong just giving an explanation of it.

I remember FB golden years. Changing the game like this does usually screw over the big guy though and less the little guys who are quicker to adapt, just thinking back at all the recent updates.
 
jerry55 said:
Freebooting is killing ad revenues for websites.

I've been running a viral site for some time and it used to be that I would find a video, embed it on my site, and promote it on YouTube.

Chances were good that I'd get a good number of website clicks.

But now, it's like every other YouTube video is uploaded to FB in no time, and naturally gets a bazillion views and shares on FB (since it autoplays in newsfeeds).

The result is that my traffic is decimated.

I'll give you an example:

I found a video on Reddit yesterday that was absolutely perfect. It was barely a day old. I put it on my site and post to my FB pages with hundreds of thousands of fans.

Normally, a post like that would get me 30,000 to 50,000 pageviews to my site.

I got barely 1,000 pageviews.

It turns out that several pages had stripped the video from YouTube and uploaded it to FB. It had hundreds of thousands of shares and millions of views on FB already in less than a day.

So by the time I posted it, no one cared. And that has been the story with like 90% of my posts every day over the last month.

In the old days (meaning a few months ago), it wasn't that big of a deal if you waited a day to post something because, without autoplay vids in feeds, the chances of someone seeing a viral video elsewhere before they saw yours were much, much less. Now, it's over before you can start, except for very specific niches, some of which I'm in thank goodness.

And the terrible thing about all this is that no one makes money of these vids except FB since you can't really monetize a video upload.

Noawadays I have to work 5 times as hard to make half as much as I used to because of the freebooting crap and FB killing organic reach (FB really tightened the faucet in May, with my average reach per website link post dropping in half, if not more - remember when FB said last year they're going to emphasize links as opposed to photo posts? Yeah right. It's killing the reach of posts with links in them).

I can still make okay money off FB but I'm having to work around the clock now and it's just getting worse with each month.

I looked back 6 months ago and compared my reach then to now. Keep in mind that I have 50% more followers now than then. Anyways, 6 months ago 80% of my posts had a reach over 100,000 each. This month, less than 10% have that reach, despite my content getting better and more targeted.

And now FB is introducing their Instant Articles stuff, which is just going to give it more control and tighten the noose even further on monetizing content on one's own website.
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Damn, that sucks.

Have you tried embedding your URL into the videos? Like hard encoded? Did that make a difference for getting conversion rates?

But I think most people are lazy and would just watch the videos on their feed and go to the next b.s on their timeline.

The viewership you are losing and not getting million of views and like, was it because of people publishing and sharing the video way before you uploaded or the people who uploaded just had a much bigger fanbase?

Can't find the Facebook Page but it has like 5 million likes and their videos were getting like a million views. Most of it was being ripped off popular viral sites like Reddit, Buzzfeed. The interesting thing to note was how dead their own site was which they tried funneling Facebook liker/posters on their post. Each of their post or 'news' on their site was getting null share/likes/comments.

Found it strange.
 
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