ICANN and Hollywood want to kill off domain privacy.

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From the namecheap.com email:

What's Happening
Under new guidelines proposed by MarkMonitor and others who represent the same industries that backed SOPA, domain holders with sites associated to "commercial activity" will no longer be able to protect their private information with WHOIS protection services. "Commercial activity" casts a wide net, which means that a vast number of domain holders will be affected. Your privacy provider could be forced to publish your contact data in WHOIS or even give it out to anyone who complains about your website, without due process. Why should a small business owner have to publicize her home address just to have a website?
We think your privacy should be protected, regardless of whether your website is personal or commercial, and your confidential info should not be revealed without due process. If you agree, it’s time to tell ICANN.
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I'm not seeing too many people talking about this bullshit.

If you hate this idea as much as I do, head on over to https://www.respectourprivacy.com/ and send ICANN your comment on why this shit shouldn't be implemented.

More info:

ICANN and Hollywood want to kill off domain privacy | Network World

ICANN's Tweaks to Domain Name Rules Could Put Your Privacy in Jeopardy
 


c0rv3tt3 said:
From the namecheap.com email:



I'm not seeing too many people talking about this bullshit.

If you hate this idea as much as I do, head on over to https://www.respectourprivacy.com/ and send ICANN your comment on why this shit shouldn't be implemented.

More info:

ICANN and Hollywood want to kill off domain privacy | Network World

ICANN's Tweaks to Domain Name Rules Could Put Your Privacy in Jeopardy
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Don't worry, if it gets blocked at the ICANN level, the FCC will just implement it.
 
I guess what they don't understand is people will just start using BS information on domain registrations. Until 'domain privacy' was a thing I made my own domain privacy. Now its even more private thanks to registrations using bitcoin.

Bullshit name + bullshit address + free email address = domain privacy.
 
Bullshit name + bullshit address + free email address = domain privacy.
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Yeah well, then they will make it mandatory to confirm your adress by sending in a passport copy. .uk registry does this already for instance.
 
What's this "leave your phone number and we'll call you crap"? Why not create a simple online petition that we can sign and share on social media?
 
Haha, joke's on them then, because passports don't have addresses in them!
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Mine does. But that's beside the point. Might as well ask for a drivers license, utility bill etc..
 
avatar33 said:
What's this "leave your phone number and we'll call you crap"? Why not create a simple online petition that we can sign and share on social media?
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There is an option on that page to also send an email. It's right below the box where you enter your phone number.

or you can write whatever you want and send it to:

comments-ppsai-initial-05may15@icann.org

Once you send the email, you'll get a confirmation request from them. Click on it and verify.
 
It's pretty horrible to see ICANN even considering this proposal.
Next time, some lunatic comes up with an idea to allow domain registrations to those born outside the solar system, ICANN will be glad to bend over.

I also understand Namecheap boycotting as it will hurt their revenue, if it succeeds, somewhat, however, many people use whoisprivacy to hide contact details from the senders of We found your website emails and We live in Asia phone calls.

On the other hand, I think that any complaining company with a seemingly valid reason can get your details already from the domain registrar if they bend over.

However, don't think that it would stop the worst kind of spammers and scammers. They probs use fake details already.
 
c0rv3tt3 said:
There is an option on that page to also send an email. It's right below the box where you enter your phone number.

or you can write whatever you want and send it to:

comments-ppsai-initial-05may15@icann.org

Once you send the email, you'll get a confirmation request from them. Click on it and verify.
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How long does it take to email back? I haven't gotten anything for verification.
 
HaraldrPinkHair said:
It's pretty horrible to see ICANN even considering this proposal.
Next time, some lunatic comes up with an idea to allow domain registrations to those born outside the solar system, ICANN will be glad to bend over.

I also understand Namecheap boycotting as it will hurt their revenue, if it succeeds, somewhat, however, many people use whoisprivacy to hide contact details from the senders of We found your website emails and We live in Asia phone calls.

On the other hand, I think that any complaining company with a seemingly valid reason can get your details already from the domain registrar if they bend over.

However, don't think that it would stop the worst kind of spammers and scammers. They probs use fake details already.
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This isn't going to protect anyone. If someone is committing a crime, they can get your info through a court order regardless.

This is just to make it a little bit more convenient for hollywood and other jackasses to bully/threaten the little guy without any due process.

JulianTrueFlynn said:
How long does it take to email back? I haven't gotten anything for verification.
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For me, it took about 5 minutes after I emailed them. I'd try again if you don't get it soon.
 
c0rv3tt3 said:
This isn't going to protect anyone. If someone is committing a crime, they can get your info through a court order regardless.

This is just to make it a little bit more convenient for hollywood and other jackasses to bully/threaten the little guy without any due process.



For me, it took about 5 minutes after I emailed them. I'd try again if you don't get it soon.
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Yea it took around 10 minutes for it to come. I wonder if their servers are just so overloaded.
 
cheshire said:
Bullshit name + bullshit address + free email address = domain privacy.
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+ valuable mis-spell domain = 48hr id verification email from namecheap + steal your domain name at 48hr 1 min + "someone" registers it at that exact time it happens to be available again + namecheap says not our fault = FFFUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!

(a true story)
 
The solution I'm seeing would be ...

- Hire a lawyer (or a friend) to let you use his name.
- Use an office or UPS box address.
- Google voice number.
- Throwaway email, hotmail account you check once a year, etc.

Then just fill in all of that as the whois info, you're not breaking any rules and they can still verify it if they want and it will check out. At least, I hope this isn't against the rules, because I've been using my office address/phone on all of my domains for years.

The hardest piece out of this would be finding someone to let you use their name, but I'm sure you could find someone in need of cash on craigslist who's willing to send you a scan of their DL for $20. If necessary just add them to your payroll with their position listed as "domain manager" and pay them a couple hundred dollars a year to "be in charge of domain maintenance."

Also, I've changed my whois info for a few domains on namecheap (when I got a new address/phone) and didn't receive any communication asking me for proof, so really if you wanted to "risk it" you could probably just put some fake info on there and nobody would ever know unless you actually got a substantial number of complaints.
 
o hai guyz said:
The solution I'm seeing would be ...

- Hire a lawyer (or a friend) to let you use his name.
- Use an office or UPS box address.
- Google voice number.
- Throwaway email, hotmail account you check once a year, etc.

Then just fill in all of that as the whois info, you're not breaking any rules and they can still verify it if they want and it will check out. At least, I hope this isn't against the rules, because I've been using my office address/phone on all of my domains for years.

The hardest piece out of this would be finding someone to let you use their name, but I'm sure you could find someone in need of cash on craigslist who's willing to send you a scan of their DL for $20. If necessary just add them to your payroll with their position listed as "domain manager" and pay them a couple hundred dollars a year to "be in charge of domain maintenance."

Also, I've changed my whois info for a few domains on namecheap (when I got a new address/phone) and didn't receive any communication asking me for proof, so really if you wanted to "risk it" you could probably just put some fake info on there and nobody would ever know unless you actually got a substantial number of complaints.
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As an update to this, I've just confirmed that you actually are allowed to enter a company name instead of a personal name as the registrant, so my first point about using a lawyer or privacy agent is unnecessary. You would just enter "Wickedfire LLC" as the registrant's name, and your office or mailbox as the address. This seems to keep privacy concerns negligible.
 
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