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kingofsp

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Hello everyone. Sorry I have been absent for so long. I'm sure many of you have been very upset about that. The reason for my absence is that I took all my e-whoring billions and have gotten heavily into investing, which takes up a great deal of my time.

Which brings me to my next question, what is the Wickedfire of the stock market world? Does it exist? StockTwits is full of morons that I cannot suffer any longer and the only half decent forums I've found have little activity.

I look forward to any feedback you might have. I hope you are all prospering and making passionate love to one another.
 


The only thing you're really going to find that is active with a userbase that doesn't disappear because they blew out their account would be paid trading rooms. That being said most of those are shit as well, but there are few decent ones out there. If you want to shoot me a message I may be able to help point you in the right direction depending on your style of trading and the instruments you use.
 
I went down this path until I realised I'm better off leaving my money with Winton Capital Management and enjoying a compound annual return that beats everything else out there for the past 20 years.

"More than 100 of the firm's employees are academics doing mathematical research and studying statistical relationships and trading patterns. These highly trained specialists are organized into research teams, which peer review and test new strategies, gather data and identify trends."

"Winton's futures trading is highly automated and systematic and uses computer algorithms to trade futures in financial assets including equities, currencies, bonds, commodities, livestock and energy in over 100 futures markets worldwide. Winton uses a mix of long-term and short-term trading as part of its strategy and combines uncorrelated strategies to maximize their risk-return ratio.According to the firm, it uses the same mathematical tools, for research, statistical data analysis, stock selection, and futures investments."

If you find bunch of jerkoffs on a forum that think they know better than a fund with $30 billion under management with only 2 small negative returns over the past 20 years, go for it son. I just add a percentage of my income to the fund every year and know it's in the best hands possible while I focus on my business where the rules aren't stacked against me.
 
icestationzebra said:
I went down this path until I realised I'm better off leaving my money with Winton Capital Management and enjoying a compound annual return that beats everything else out there for the past 20 years.

"More than 100 of the firm's employees are academics doing mathematical research and studying statistical relationships and trading patterns. These highly trained specialists are organized into research teams, which peer review and test new strategies, gather data and identify trends."

"Winton's futures trading is highly automated and systematic and uses computer algorithms to trade futures in financial assets including equities, currencies, bonds, commodities, livestock and energy in over 100 futures markets worldwide. Winton uses a mix of long-term and short-term trading as part of its strategy and combines uncorrelated strategies to maximize their risk-return ratio.According to the firm, it uses the same mathematical tools, for research, statistical data analysis, stock selection, and futures investments."

If you find bunch of jerkoffs on a forum that think they know better than a fund with $30 billion under management with only 2 small negative returns over the past 20 years, go for it son. I just add a percentage of my income to the fund every year and know it's in the best hands possible while I focus on my business where the rules aren't stacked against me.
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Is there a minimum investment amount for Winton?
 
icestationzebra said:
If you find bunch of jerkoffs on a forum that think they know better than a fund with $30 billion under management with only 2 small negative returns over the past 20 years, go for it son.
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Happens all the time, ie "Long Term Capital Management".

As for "2 small negative retuns in 20 years", I could achieve 0 negative returns in 20 years simply by putting all my money in Treasuries. The bar isn't positive returns, it's consistent performance against the S&P... taking management fee percentages into account, of course.
 
cardine said:
Is there a minimum investment amount for Winton?
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For me to access it in Australia it's a $20k minimum

intent said:
Happens all the time, ie "Long Term Capital Management".

As for "2 small negative retuns in 20 years", I could achieve 0 negative returns in 20 years simply by putting all my money in Treasuries. The bar isn't positive returns, it's consistent performance against the S&P... taking management fee percentages into account, of course.
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They're trend followers, the only way of trading I believe in.

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The alpha since 2009 seems weak though...the bulk of the outperformance was made between inception and 2008
 
Thanks for all the input. I'm not 100% trading. Far from it. But it is how I'm spending the majority of my weekdays lately. I bought a boat load of LinkedIn the other day before their earnings announcement. That worked out pretty well. I'm already a guru!
 
The recent slew of Chinese equities getting class-action sued for cooking the books has had an interesting market effect. As a value investor, I certainly got nailed by more than one Chinese company that was undervalued on paper but wound up being a paper tiger in real life.

I'll never trust another Chinese equity. If China winds up being the next global superpower (maybe so, maybe not), investors are in for a rough ride.
 
intent said:
The recent slew of Chinese equities getting class-action sued for cooking the books has had an interesting market effect. As a value investor, I certainly got nailed by more than one Chinese company that was undervalued on paper but wound up being a paper tiger in real life.

I'll never trust another Chinese equity. If China winds up being the next global superpower (maybe so, maybe not), investors are in for a rough ride.
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They don't value honesty as much as the West does. Changing that will take a huge cultural shift. However, HK may be an exception.

This reminds me of when Caterpillar got nailed by Chinese fraudsters:

Caterpillar Writes Off Most of China Deal after Fraud
 
shindig said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets isn't bad for what it is. Some great entertainment, some great insight. There was a gruninesque guy there that was fucking hilarious and somewhat of a legend.
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Link or username?

In answer to OP: investorshub, investorvillage, thelion, siliconinvestor.

But I've had the same observation that there is no really big, active stock forum -- and they all seem to use terrible old forum software.
 
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