Case Study: Spending 25,000.00 on an offline biz using WickedFire BST services.

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I came into this thread thinking I would maybe learn something new. Ha.

What a fucking train wreck.
 
I disagree.

One needs to stand up for himself. If you think someone does wrong to you, you take it up with that person. Big or small. You handle that shit. Lock that shit down. If it gets out of hand or he runs away or ducks you, you find that fucker and you deal him swift relevant justice and the matter ends right then and there, regardless of how little or much justice was served.

Very few times, you just gotta chalk it up and let it go. ONLY when it's going to prove more expensive to get that justice. ONLY when it has little to no bearing on your reputation or market. When deadbeats owe creditors money, do they just, ignore it and write it off? Fuck that. They hound and pound the shit out of the debt holder.

Guys that are so quick to avoid confrontation of any sorts and replace it with motivational good feels and happy times and claims of how it makes you more successful and blah blah fuckin blah are the guys that also get ripped off ALL THE TIME... why? Because they have zero balls. They instead like to praise themselves and other weaklings that it's okay to get fucked. Well, pass the lube around boys, you're gonna need lots of it with that attitude!

But leaving it up to karma? He'll get his.... yeah.. okay.. When? When was the last time you saw karma catch up to someone and deal real justice as it was deserved? Hm? Yeah.. life doesn't work that way.

Be a man and stand the fuck up for yourselves. You'll feel better. It will boost your personal and business pride and ego in a very healthy way (not negative -- feelings of anxiety and fear, those are negative and can unfuck your rise to where you need to be). But mostly, you'll be doing yourself and the market a huge favor and it will prove to yourself that you did something good and right for a change.

That's the difference between how I run my stuff versus how others run theirs. I am aggressive and dominant. I don't let people fuck me. When they try (of course people still try...) I go after them. HARD. What you guys may see as overkill of aggression I see as getting rid of one less scammer or fraudster that needed getting rid of. Maybe that's because where I'm from and how I was raised, real men weren't pretending to be someone they weren't. When business was done and someone fucked up, they got punished. Words = not much punishment.

I'm addicted to doing it because it's the right thing to do, even if it makes me no money. It's still, the right thing to do and it's so easy and necessary.

But those who stand up for not standing up... lose any respect earned and in turn, are just inviting more scams and frauds onto themselves. Now THAT is karma at work.


Jon, you're about as fake as it gets, we all see you. The only confrontation you do is online, we are all tired of your shit.

Such a bad ass.

P.S. how's that premium section coming. Hope it paid your water bill last month. $100,000,000.00 Net worth my ass. I'll keep my membership going to make sure the lights stay on in your apartment.


@tim2963: Not trolling: Did you really read Jon's post (quoted @ top) before posting that? Or did you read only 1/2 of his posts posted around the same time?
 
Tim...

Your only response was to take pics of mine from Google images that are really old and funny, and try to poke fun at it and my character all because I disagreed with you and called you out for lying?

lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grow a pair.

Cheap shots eh? Alright, two can play this game...


His niche is drug rehab.

Anyone want his sites? You can poke fun at how shitty they are and then see how much he's ranking for, for real... or not..

PPS- I don't have CIA friends. I have WickedFire Intelligence Agency friends only. Get it right, fucko.
 
@tim2963 -

You still haven't responded.... how is that lawsuit coming along on Nathan? You said quite a while ago that you hired a lawyer to get him arrested too, right? So, did you do that yet?

I don't understand why you're avoiding it? You're the one that shot me down and said I'm full of shit and fake and all talk no action... yet..... haven't seen you do... ANYTHING of actual substance yet... Like, not even on here on this case study.

I just revealed your niche... so, now you can reveal your sites. Or would you like me to do that too? Because I will if you don't.

You see, I'm just an angry fake dumb Jew that never did anything with his life and spends all day boasting and claiming shit, online only, and all of those pics were obviously serious in tone and nature, and of course photoshopped since I don't ever show up anywhere in person in the nine years that I've had WickedFire for....

Your posts open up so many more questions than answers, it's like an episode of LOST. When was the last time you were at any industry show? Do you actually know anyone here in person? Have you met anyone here, in person? If someone were to bring all of this up to you in person, about Nathan fucking you over and you taking it like the good bottom bitch you are, would you turn red and blush about it?

I still don't get what any of this has to do with the status of your adventure to lock up the guy that scammed you and others out of money. You just seem to keep avoiding that topic... and ya know... I just can't imagine why that is....?? [Since you don't understand sarcasm, THIS IS A WARNING TO LET YOU KNOW THAT SARCASM HAS BEEN DEPLOYED.]
 
The old Wickedfire drama candle slowly flickers back to life..

Hey guys I used my Australian ASIO contacts to do some research on Jon Fisher's personal life and here's what I found...

Jonathan Fisher (born 15 September 1988 in Kingston upon Thames, England) is a rugby union player for the Northampton Saints. He plays at Flanker, Lock or No. 8.

and guess what they found, his real picture!

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@tim2963 -

You still haven't responded.... how is that lawsuit coming along on Nathan? You said quite a while ago that you hired a lawyer to get him arrested too, right? So, did you do that yet?

I don't understand why you're avoiding it? You're the one that shot me down and said I'm full of shit and fake and all talk no action... yet..... haven't seen you do... ANYTHING of actual substance yet... Like, not even on here on this case study.

I just revealed your niche... so, now you can reveal your sites. Or would you like me to do that too? Because I will if you don't.

You see, I'm just an angry fake dumb Jew that never did anything with his life and spends all day boasting and claiming shit, online only, and all of those pics were obviously serious in tone and nature, and of course photoshopped since I don't ever show up anywhere in person in the nine years that I've had WickedFire for....

Your posts open up so many more questions than answers, it's like an episode of LOST. When was the last time you were at any industry show? Do you actually know anyone here in person? Have you met anyone here, in person? If someone were to bring all of this up to you in person, about Nathan fucking you over and you taking it like the good bottom bitch you are, would you turn red and blush about it?

I still don't get what any of this has to do with the status of your adventure to lock up the guy that scammed you and others out of money. You just seem to keep avoiding that topic... and ya know... I just can't imagine why that is....?? [Since you don't understand sarcasm, THIS IS A WARNING TO LET YOU KNOW THAT SARCASM HAS BEEN DEPLOYED.]

It doesn't matter what you type, because you're just a twig man, you wouldn't say anything at a trade show, at a coffee shop, at walmart, or in the streets, but hey. That's is what forums are for right?

You keep threatening people on here. How about instead of posting my sites, you post some fucking content in this premium section you got us all hyped up for. So pipe down with the constant nerd rage, when people are being scammed on YOUR forum, not only by others, but by YOU as well.
 
Hmm...
As far as I can see, the picture with Andrew wee is from ASW 09 (still up in his blog)
 
Jon,

You are a pathological liar and probably have an amphetamine addiction. You are probably also extremely insecure. You and a lot of other people here (but definitely not Andrey, lol) need to find happiness outside of money because more money will never make you happier or more content with yourselves or your lives.

Almost everybody here is morally bankrupt and most people here are financially bankrupt too (not that that matters). I left this industry a few years ago and have never looked back. It's hard for a while but then it gets a lot easier and you can sleep at night and don't have to manage major depression during the day or find reasons to get out of bed in the morning because you know the world would honestly be a better place if you stayed in. Being more motivated by doing something good or at least neutral means that you can actually probably make more money while doing something legitimate with your life. If you are reading this and this resonates with you, I encourage you to leave this industry as well.

This place is lame now. Almost everyone that didn't suck has left. The only thing that would make me happier than getting banned would be having you delete my entire post history. Because I have changed and WickedFire has changed but that's not obvious to people who see it today. You can ban me. I've posted a handful of times in two years. I don't care. I used to be addicted to WickedFire but I have literally stopped checking, and not out of increased self-control, but rather just because it's not tempting because this place sucks and is boring now. Someone linked me to this thread.

Jon you should seriously consider seeking help, or meditating, or taking a philosophy course, or painting, or something. You are a very angry person.

PS: If you are some kid reading this and don't know who I am, look at my join date and then shut the fuck up.
 
I wasn't just an original member of this forum; I remember the fucking sitepoint thread that spawned this forum. Shut this place down man. It had a great run but it's over.
 
urage you to leave this industry as well.

This place is lame now. Almost everyone that didn't suck has left. The only thing that would make me happier than getting banned would be having you delete my entire post history. Because I have changed and WickedFire has changed but that's not obvious to people who see it today. You can ban me. I've posted a handful of times in two years. I don't care. I used to be addicted to WickedFire but I have literally stopped checking, and not out of increased self-control, but rather just because it's not tempting because this place sucks and is boring now. Someone linked me to this thread.

Jon you should seriously consider seeking help, or meditating, or taking a philosophy course, or painting, or something. You are a very angry person.

PS: If you are some kid reading this and don't know who I am, look at my join date and then shut the fuck up.

Where did it all go wrong? the forum seemed strong during the Grunin hubbub era. After that it just seemed to fizzle out. Did everyone suddenly realise how full of shit every high flyer in this industry can be?
 
Where did it all go wrong? the forum seemed strong during the Grunin hubbub era. After that it just seemed to fizzle out. Did everyone suddenly realise how full of shit every high flyer in this industry can be?

It changed when Jon decided he wants money for content that everyone BUT himself provided.

To ensure the money grab runs without a hitch, he de-modded every mod he ever added.

Then provided a laundry list of high flying promises.

None of which came to be - SURPRISE

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Interested to see where this goes. I'm still hopeful for a rejuvinated WF. In the meantime I'm lining up to get my popcorn.

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Where did it all go wrong? the forum seemed strong during the Grunin hubbub era. After that it just seemed to fizzle out.

It changed when Jon decided he wants money for content that everyone BUT himself provided.

To ensure the money grab runs without a hitch, he de-modded every mod he ever added.

In my eyes, it started to sink when you mods stopped banning spammers and other douchebags. Then, i can speak only for myself, i started to loose a motivation to come here, check and talk regularly.

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During the boom years WF provided everyone with, well, money. And then the value transitioned to entertainment. Perhaps no forum online provided such relentless, epic, and hilarious drama as WF. It was just so fucking entertaining. It was beautiful.

The entertainment factor was part of the reason everyone put up with Jon's ego and general poor behavior for the past decade. Other reasons were that, at one point, he was an idol to many. And ofcourse there's the fact that he's the admin that could ban anyone at any point.

But now there's no entertainment, no other value, no worshipping, and who really cares if they get banned? The culture is gone, the purpose is gone, the people are gone.

It's all already over. It's been over for years. At some point a critical mass of the original crew left and a bunch of weird new people dominated the new culture. WF started going on bizarre witch hunts and just generally cyber bullying and being general losers. A lot of the new 'top posters' are probably teenagers. The culture here is unfunny and so incredibly immature.

To ensure the money grab runs without a hitch, he de-modded every mod he ever added.

Because we all know that money is more important than friends...

Jon I apologize for mentioning possible amphetamine abuse. That's your business and I don't have any way of knowing if that's something you deal with. You certainly act in a very manic fashion but maybe that's just your personality. But you reliably behave like an asshole and you do have a big ego issue and I'm just vocalizing what hundreds of people reading this are thinking. At the end of the day you're no better than anyone else and you should consider being a better dude.