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bluechinagroup said:
shindig that's awesome! Did you use Unity for the VR hackathon? I'm planning on building a new PC and grabbing my own Vive next month. I already started doing some coding in Unity and it's a lot of fun.

Have you had any experience with Unreal Engine?
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Yeah I use Unity, I used Unreal when it first came out but I started with Unity in 2009 and got a mobile license in March 2012 when they weren't free, and I can dance circles around Unreal guys when it comes to rapid prototyping and creating experiences. We have colleagues who are big fans of it for the visual appeal but we get 85% of the results with 1/10th or less the effort which is good enough for me.

Unreal has better visual fidelity and performance out of the box with less effort, Unity can make AAA games but it requires custom shaders and tricks to get the same performance. However, the HTC Vive runs at 90fps from Unity builds steadily, Valve is fucking amazing. We've shipped a lot of Oculus projects and we don't even pay attention to them anymore.

The other main reason we use Unity is because it's the first to get support for new tech coming out. It's currently the recommended development platform for Hololens development for example while Unreal doesn't run on it, it got Vive and Oculus support first, 6 months+ before Unreal. We got our Hololenses in April this year, I got a big head start on the Unreal guys since they can't actually use it yet.

We also have been doing Augmented reality with it for 4 years, while Unreal is just now getting AR....

I've also been using Kinect 1, Kinect 2, Primesense sensors, openNI, and just a ton of other shit that integrates easily in Unity. Everything from CastAR, Leap Motion, various haptic suits, Meta glasses, etc work with Unity before Unreal.

More than a year ago we got one of the first 200 HTC Vive prototypes (I work less than a mile from Valve in Bellevue), I had 5 weeks to make an experience for a big company similar to Samsung, and it was really straightforward to get it done even with beta sdk's and hardware thanks to the productivity in Unity.

Download Vuforia and the examples and give it a spin in Unity...years ago there was a better AR library called MetaIO but Apple bought it and shut it down.

Apple also bought Primesense and pulled the plug on it overnight while we were using it. The structure sensor is based off it. Primesense developed openNI as an opensource project and Apple shut down the servers hosting it. Someone put up a new repository with the last version they'd downloaded so it still exists today.
 


bluechinagroup said:
You attacked someone that some people DO respect here (BabyGotBacklink) because she makes good posts, and Galacon called you a fuck face and is fucking with you while you're taking it so cereal.

Also I like both BabyGotBacklink and Galacon way more than I like you. BTW you're really cute when you call Galacon "Galacum" and shit in the tags thinking you're completely anonymous because you're too much of a bitch to associate your forums name with such insults.

Please also keep disliking people's posts over petty reasons but hardly ever making a post yourself. Supposedly you made almost 500 posts, but I don't remember any of them. Probably because they're all pretty unremarkable.
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ZERO FUCKS. GOOK NIGGER. GO APOLOGIZE ABOUT HATING ON TRUMP AGAIN. FUCKING PUSSY. GO SUCK GALACUMS DICK WHILE BG BUTTER FACE FUCKS YOU IN THE ASS.
 
MentalyDisturbd said:
ZERO FUCKS. GOOK NIGGER. GO APOLOGIZE ABOUT HATING ON TRUMP AGAIN. FUCKING PUSSY. GO SUCK GALACUMS DICK WHILE BG BUTTER FACE FUCKS YOU IN THE ASS.
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What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
 
shindig said:
Yeah I use Unity, I used Unreal when it first came out but I started with Unity in 2009 and got a mobile license in March 2012 when they weren't free, and I can dance circles around Unreal guys when it comes to rapid prototyping and creating experiences. We have colleagues who are big fans of it for the visual appeal but we get 85% of the results with 1/10th or less the effort which is good enough for me.

Unreal has better visual fidelity and performance out of the box with less effort, Unity can make AAA games but it requires custom shaders and tricks to get the same performance. However, the HTC Vive runs at 90fps from Unity builds steadily, Valve is fucking amazing. We've shipped a lot of Oculus projects and we don't even pay attention to them anymore.

The other main reason we use Unity is because it's the first to get support for new tech coming out. It's currently the recommended development platform for Hololens development for example while Unreal doesn't run on it, it got Vive and Oculus support first, 6 months+ before Unreal. We got our Hololenses in April this year, I got a big head start on the Unreal guys since they can't actually use it yet.

We also have been doing Augmented reality with it for 4 years, while Unreal is just now getting AR....

I've also been using Kinect 1, Kinect 2, Primesense sensors, openNI, and just a ton of other shit that integrates easily in Unity. Everything from CastAR, Leap Motion, various haptic suits, Meta glasses, etc work with Unity before Unreal.

More than a year ago we got one of the first 200 HTC Vive prototypes (I work less than a mile from Valve in Bellevue), I had 5 weeks to make an experience for a big company similar to Samsung, and it was really straightforward to get it done even with beta sdk's and hardware thanks to the productivity in Unity.

Download Vuforia and the examples and give it a spin in Unity...years ago there was a better AR library called MetaIO but Apple bought it and shut it down.

Apple also bought Primesense and pulled the plug on it overnight while we were using it. The structure sensor is based off it. Primesense developed openNI as an opensource project and Apple shut down the servers hosting it. Someone put up a new repository with the last version they'd downloaded so it still exists today.
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Do you have any opinion on this new AR headset that I just heard about the other day called meta 2?
 
bluechinagroup said:
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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I thought you loved galacum and bgbl butter face.
 
That's awesome she admitted that she's ugly because of my posts. Self esteem is a bitch. But yeah I'm a bad ass and don't give a fuck about you.
 
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bluechinagroup said:
Do you have any opinion on this new AR headset that I just heard about the other day called meta 2?
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It's better than Hololens :) and works with Unity (they tried to recruit me to work on Unity stuff but they're in California), but when magic leap comes out it will blow all the competition out of the water by a long shot.

Also if you're just getting started I'd give both Unity and Unreal an honest try and pick which one fits you best, I'm so vested in Unity but heck if I was starting today I might do Unreal but probably wouldn't have gotten into the non game experience niche with ar/vr/mr I fell into.
 
shindig said:
:( Combination of easy money in IM evaporating, and all the shysters leaving....the unscrupulous users were the main entertainment.
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It's a bit more complicated than that... but hey, does it really matter anymore? Nah.

Go live your lives. It was fun while it lasted. Srsly. I appreciate all the good times and I hope all the dickheads never get laid again. Well, good sex at least, I hope they never get good sex again!!! Bahahaha!

That's about it.
 
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