What do you use for Tracking AM campaigns?
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No i'm not using a shared hosting. You only need to install it on one domain and it'll track every site of yours. P202 and T202 works the same, just install the freaking thing and test it, it's cool.. only takes a minute to install.
Why would anyone trust their entire affiliate revenue stream to pass through another sites url? It also ads another redirect to the bunch that isn't needed.
Not saying they do, but hypothetically, prosper could shave your commissions by inserting their affiliate ID every Nth click
IMO, less redirects the better.
With a pretty simple php app you can grab all of the data you want when visitors land on your LP and dynamically create your affiliate links to include a sub-id that is also in your db referencing the variables you are tracking.
This way all you have to do is upload your conversion data based on sub-id and you can see your exact revenue for each combination of keyword, LP, and whatever else you are tracking.
Pre-fab is probably much easier for those who don't like to get their hands messy with code, but the way i see it. Every campaign is different and the important stats and how you need to analyze them will be different. So i go with custom every time. (after the first one you make its pretty damn easy to modify for any circumstance)
Anyone can have their site removed from Quantcast, so if this is an issue just get it removed.
wow, i dont think a single person answered the OP. As much as i like Wes and P202 (even wrote a guest blog post to go up any day), that's not the point of this thread. I was trying to get some useful information.
this thread is dead to me now....
this thread is dead to me now....
Yes you upload subids for revenue and cost data for costs. So far mine is the only one to even tackle this. Prosper can't do this. Mine also allows rotation of offers so you can find winners real quick. (I'm sure this feature will be copied soon to the other trackers out there.)
Yes you upload subids for revenue and cost data for costs. So far mine is the only one to even tackle this. Prosper can't do this. Mine also allows rotation of offers so you can find winners real quick. (I'm sure this feature will be copied soon to the other trackers out there.)
you should produce it
Yes you upload subids for revenue and cost data for costs. So far mine is the only one to even tackle this. Prosper can't do this. Mine also allows rotation of offers so you can find winners real quick. (I'm sure this feature will be copied soon to the other trackers out there.)
P202 Can handle all of this quite easily with a little thought on your part. Also a small script can be made to spit test offers before going into p202. Not that I'm evangelizing I just find it really useful.
And for the OP, yeah I use my own system and now I'm moving over to p202 for the most part since it handles all the same stuff and more mostly.
The Black Ink project guy just came out with a new tracking system I got an email about, haven't looked into it. I'm not linking it you can find it with google if you want I'm sure.
Yes you upload subids for revenue and cost data for costs. So far mine is the only one to even tackle this. Prosper can't do this. Mine also allows rotation of offers so you can find winners real quick. (I'm sure this feature will be copied soon to the other trackers out there.)
P202 already does all of this. I'm not sure why you think it can't
A Java programmer buddy and I are creating our own, probably needs a month or two more work.
Currently just integrates with DirectTrack's Webservices API (OurFreeStuff, Copeac, CPAEmpire, MarketLeverage all have the same RPC style calls) and with AZ's easy SOAP API. Thats for "revenue sources" however.. for "traffic sources" (i.e. FB, Goog, Yahoo) it scrapes stats (FB) via a dirty PHP cURL script I came up with, and with the big guys it integrates with their APIs (much cleaner of course). Google has a ridiculously awesome (read: easy to integrate with, at least in JAva) Adwords API for managing search campaigns, but it does cost "per unit" when you do certain things. I haven't yet built safety mechanisms to make sure we don't get caught in certain loops for expensive operations (the most being scheduleReportJob), but maybe Google already did that.
Anyone else doing any part of this?
We may never even "launch" this thing (outside of a small group of guys I'm workin with) this year (if at all) because it'd take a large amount of time to support it, when really just making our daily PPC tracking/campaign tasks obsolete is the first goal. =)
I bring this up because I'd be interested in talking to guys goin to ASE (or just on IM) who are into this sort of thing, i.e. tech aspects of PPC tracking and automation. Just shooting the shit over drinks is fine, esp. since being social (i.e. boozing) is what these conferences are all about right? Haha.
Currently just integrates with DirectTrack's Webservices API (OurFreeStuff, Copeac, CPAEmpire, MarketLeverage all have the same RPC style calls) and with AZ's easy SOAP API. Thats for "revenue sources" however.. for "traffic sources" (i.e. FB, Goog, Yahoo) it scrapes stats (FB) via a dirty PHP cURL script I came up with, and with the big guys it integrates with their APIs (much cleaner of course). Google has a ridiculously awesome (read: easy to integrate with, at least in JAva) Adwords API for managing search campaigns, but it does cost "per unit" when you do certain things. I haven't yet built safety mechanisms to make sure we don't get caught in certain loops for expensive operations (the most being scheduleReportJob), but maybe Google already did that.
Anyone else doing any part of this?
We may never even "launch" this thing (outside of a small group of guys I'm workin with) this year (if at all) because it'd take a large amount of time to support it, when really just making our daily PPC tracking/campaign tasks obsolete is the first goal. =)
I bring this up because I'd be interested in talking to guys goin to ASE (or just on IM) who are into this sort of thing, i.e. tech aspects of PPC tracking and automation. Just shooting the shit over drinks is fine, esp. since being social (i.e. boozing) is what these conferences are all about right? Haha.
I use OMS
I've been testing out Optimize My Site recently and I really like it so far. Its a paid solution, about $90 or so. You can track pretty much everything you need, you upload cost reports from 3 main se's and transaction reports from your networks and it gives you a breakdown of all sorts of stuff. It will cloak your links, you can use it with any network that offers sub id tracking and the ability to download transaction reports. It will breakdown Cost, revenue, profit etc etc. Pretty cool
I've been testing out Optimize My Site recently and I really like it so far. Its a paid solution, about $90 or so. You can track pretty much everything you need, you upload cost reports from 3 main se's and transaction reports from your networks and it gives you a breakdown of all sorts of stuff. It will cloak your links, you can use it with any network that offers sub id tracking and the ability to download transaction reports. It will breakdown Cost, revenue, profit etc etc. Pretty cool
Hmm been a while since I last checked it out, but if they can do bulk uploads of cost data for campaigns now, then I stand corrected. I also didn't know they had a built in rotation feature. My bad.
How about instead of being the only tracker to tackle that, I'll say it was the first...
Sounds pretty sweet. You should talk to Wes from Tracking202 this is the main thing their system is missing maybe you guys could team up or you could release a plugin we could buy or something. Would save my ass a lot of time
I use my own "script"... It actually started out like that.. but now its evolved into a monster and I can confidently say its the best tool out there... Been in beta testing for several months now but I'm gonna release it in the next month or so...
Here is the URL with a few screen shots etc.. you be the judge *shameless plug coming*:
AffiliateDroid.com - Making Affiliate Life Easier
Here is the URL with a few screen shots etc.. you be the judge *shameless plug coming*:
AffiliateDroid.com - Making Affiliate Life Easier
pretty slick looking, and of course your from israel, thats where all the best software comes from/
Hehe... Actually all those screen shots there are a little out dated, the software has gone under a major over haul and its a lot better now (my beta testers are loving it even more.. didn't think that was possible) and has a ton of new features that it lacked.. now I feel its almost ready for "the public" and I'll probably launch it within a month or so.. need to finish all the help sections/video tutorials etc. Hopefully it'll help some people out there
Sounds pretty sweet. You should talk to Wes from Tracking202 this is the main thing their system is missing maybe you guys could team up or you could release a plugin we could buy or something. Would save my ass a lot of time
Heh, my thoughts exactly. Wes and I met at ASW but didn't chat much, I'll hit him up again.
I'm really pouring a lot of time (and money, I have a full-time friend/employee/programmer whose life I'm funding from my own PPC campaigns, haha) into this thing.
The dream is literally this: you install this thing, enter your logins, and the next screen shows all your campaigns, rev vs spend, ROI, etc. You don't need to input anything else, no tracking links, no ad copy, no nothing. Everything is downloaded from the Google API, Yahoo SEM, scraped from FB, etc. and all the DT networks' stats are pulled from Webservices and AZ's stats from their custom SOAP API.
I use what I have so far for FB and AZ every day, as in I don't even login to FB or AZ at all anymore to check stats. I go to my dashboard and see where each ad's at. All sub ids are aligned (must ensure every ad has a unique sub id of course) and it shows a green/red table cell based on profitability. Love most days waking up in the morning and seeing more green than red of course.
There are some parts that are hard to automate.. one of which is of course creating/updated things on FB. They don't have an API and although I've figured out how to scrape stats across multiple accounts with PHP/cURL, updating bids and creating ads is a different beast. Maybe someday they'll create an API for it, but in the meantime I'm not wading through their mess of Javascript and AJAX calls to figure out how to spoof 'em. I already pulled my hair out and starting drinking after wasting a day doing this, haha.
So yeah, it's all a dream, but we're getting there.. hopefully later this year I might have something to share with everyone, and ideally for free to get feedback. Ping me if you want to talk more, and of course I'll be social as possible at ASE so hit me up there too.
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