Just starting PPC, are email/zip submits the way to go?

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BB, just because you've been here for a year, you believe you have some "Elite" status or something. But I just took the time out to skim your last 100 replies not including this thread, and each and every single one besides 7 were just general chat or insulting someone. Only 7 fucking helpful posts out of 100. I took the liberty of skimming my replies, and out of the last 100; over 85 posts were made to help someone; and actually helped.

* Not counting any posts between you and I.

You really are a waste.

BB_Wolfe might fuck around a lot on Wickedfire, but then again so do I. And he helped me a shitload the other day with a WP theme I was struggling with, and I appreciate that. He's definitely willing to take his time to help people.

Furthermore, how come whenever an e-beef starts getting exciting, people start chiming in with that "chill out, bro" stuff? I believe this may be a result of growing up in a domestically violent environment. Not really sure. But some of us are trying to eat popcorn and enjoy the war of words.

Actually I hate popcorn, but you know what I mean.
 
BB_Wolfe might fuck around a lot on Wickedfire, but then again so do I. And he helped me a shitload the other day with a WP theme I was struggling with, and I appreciate that. He's definitely willing to take his time to help people.

Furthermore, how come whenever an e-beef starts getting exciting, people start chiming in with that "chill out, bro" stuff? I believe this may be a result of growing up in a domestically violent environment. Not really sure. But some of us are trying to eat popcorn and enjoy the war of words.

Actually I hate popcorn, but you know what I mean.

I actually respect you kings, you're a chill out dude and one that doesn't go looking for a battle. I have no problem with people that like to just talk and hang out on forums, forums are simply meant to network between each other. But when BB comes at me, always bringing up my post count as though all I do is stay in the shooting the shit section posting man boobs and ask how much everyone made today.

I do understand that a lot of this beef at me is coming because I came to this forum with a network in my sig in all, as vice had mentioned in my profile message. But at the same time, I never mention my network outside these battles, never once did I. I am and still do takes the shoes of an affiliate marketer and talk through from those shoes.

But yea, that's all I have to say.
 
Okay, I give up: watching this is way more fun than I could have hope my thread would be...

In fact I can learn more insults to use online, I'd never heard of an 'asshat' in the UK, but there you go.
 
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Hey Larry

welcome to affiliate marketing,

a lot of people will be reluctant to tell you what worked for them because guys like myself lost a lot of money to finally eventually make money.

Zip submits are a good start, they aren't the end all of affiliate marketing but it's a good way to get your feet wet. Polls will help you make money and learn how to manage adwords adgroups. There's a learning process with polls. my second month in aff marketing I was making 200-300 a day with polls. Eventually google will slap them and you will have to move them to different domains. It gets frustrating but you get the idea of how to use adwords and it makes you actually realize how aff marketing works. I don't really do many polls anymore but I might in the future. You should check out ppc coach it's a pretty good site to get your start.
 
Hey Larry

welcome to affiliate marketing,

a lot of people will be reluctant to tell you what worked for them because guys like myself lost a lot of money to finally eventually make money.

Zip submits are a good start, they aren't the end all of affiliate marketing but it's a good way to get your feet wet. Polls will help you make money and learn how to manage adwords adgroups. There's a learning process with polls. my second month in aff marketing I was making 200-300 a day with polls. Eventually google will slap them and you will have to move them to different domains. It gets frustrating but you get the idea of how to use adwords and it makes you actually realize how aff marketing works. I don't really do many polls anymore but I might in the future. You should check out ppc coach it's a pretty good site to get your start.

I own a copy of his Poll software ^^^^^ and it's really nice, if anyone wants a quick and efficient way to put a poll cluster together, try it out.
 
I don't know ROIShare personally or anything, so I'm not going to question his sexuality, but I CAN vouch for the fact that BB is a good shit and good shits don't come along very often. So there's that.

Getting back the the ORIGINAL fucking post though, how can you honestly say that zip submits are a bad idea for n00bs? What do you suggest they dive head on into? Trying to rank on the first page for 'acai weight loss' with organic SEO? Or maybe starting up an underwater glow in the dark watches site that is geared towards low cost PPC? I'm trying to come off as sarcastic here (obviously) but I'd be interested in what you think would be a good place to start for a newbie's newbie considering zip and e-mail submits are a bad idea in your opinion. And this is not a 'my friend has crabs what should he do' type post.

I'm legitimately curious.
 
Ignore horseshit breath above. Polls are an OK way to start and you can make money, but here's the gotchas:

1. Polls require a shit-ton of testing, and you may spend $500 over a few days/hours before you break even with a good poll. Finding the right placements and scaling it out will give you some long term profits.

2. CPC, as cuntface above alluded to, needs to be really, really, really low to start. Understand how Googles ad ranking system and ad quality score works to your advantage.By starting with a $.15 Max CPC, you will boost your ad's initial rank, but moreover a good quality score will usually keep you on page 1. Drop the CPC by a penny each time you optimize until it's sitting at .10 CPC Max.

3. Poll Landing Page. This to me is the biggest challenge to conversions. Make it look like a cool lander, use lots of graphics and reiterate the offer visually. Your goal is to get as high of a CTR as possible, and get those folks to that Email submit. Make sure you specify they need to enter their email to get the 'prize' or whatever.

4. Have some cash. Start with $1000 so you don't get flustered when you've spent $500 and only have $250. Using the data you generate, the other $500 will break you even.

nice post, rep for you
 
FYI polls are NOT the only way to make money with zips...but bids at or below .10 is def the idea. Ive had direct to zips and simple splash landers net me 100%, no polls either.
Test your ass off, and prepare to lose before you win.
Secret- dont give up.
 
I don't know ROIShare personally or anything, so I'm not going to question his sexuality, but I CAN vouch for the fact that BB is a good shit and good shits don't come along very often.
Yes he is a good shit, but he will also break your nose if you fuck with him.

ROIShare's posts aren't that bad, he's just going through extended hazing, for whatever reason.
 
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