This is hood mentallity right here. "The world is FUCKED UP, so I better get my own before the man, takes mine!" Bullshit plain and simple but whatever you have to do to morally justify it in your mind.
I don't want to scam people...
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This is hood mentallity right here. "The world is FUCKED UP, so I better get my own before the man, takes mine!" Bullshit plain and simple but whatever you have to do to morally justify it in your mind.
There are rebill offers who actually deliver good products. Before choosing an offer I make sure that the Rebill Clause is presented in the order page. Not in tiny font but it should be readable easily without having to click a link.
I also put disclaimer on top on my flog that this is a story, written by affiliate but based on actual result expected from the product.
So check the rebill offer first, check the complaints, do the companies making it hard for people to cancel? Does the rebill clause presented clearly in the offer page? If so then it's not your fault that some people don't read it.
This is why I don't promote biz opp at all anymore. I still haven't found biz opp rebill that actually delivers what it promises.
I also put disclaimer on top on my flog that this is a story, written by affiliate but based on actual result expected from the product.
So check the rebill offer first, check the complaints, do the companies making it hard for people to cancel? Does the rebill clause presented clearly in the offer page? If so then it's not your fault that some people don't read it.
This is why I don't promote biz opp at all anymore. I still haven't found biz opp rebill that actually delivers what it promises.
If I recall didn't you say you run one or more payday loan outlets? A helluva a lot of people consider those kinds of places perpetrators of usury, you'd have to run some of your own moral justification that you call Danc1122 out for to square your position up.
First off, you're wrong. MANY offers either don't have proper T&C's, or hide it somewhere that the average person would not see. (keep in mind the entire world does not work in internet marketing or web design).
Second, MANY of these companies do not stick to their T&C's, or leave parts out. Like some places start your free trial when you order it, not when it gets there, and do not disclose that in their terms.
Third, many of these advertisers just make it impossible for people to cancel once they do find out they've been had. Customer service lines are ALWAYS busy so people cannot cancel. or numbers just don't work. People get billed every month until they cancel their card, which is a huge pain in the ass.
People can try and rationalize it all they want, but the truth is people are being scammed and people who promote the offers are partly responsible. So if that bothers you, don't promote these types of offers. Plenty of other ways to make money out there...
Also, the govt. and FTC are cracking down and unless you make so much that you can hire good lawyers w/o having a dent in your pocket, find something else. What goes around comes around....
Sell leads. There are at least 100 good niches and companies will always need leads. Check out leadpile for ideas (their prices suck so do not actually sell through them)
I get $35-50 per lead in many verticals (shared) and I know the biz owners are happy because they typically buy many times.
To me it is far easier than getting someone to buy something and you are not scamming anyone.
I don't happen to give a shit about rebills but if you do, this is an avenue worth pursuing.
I get $35-50 per lead in many verticals (shared) and I know the biz owners are happy because they typically buy many times.
To me it is far easier than getting someone to buy something and you are not scamming anyone.
I don't happen to give a shit about rebills but if you do, this is an avenue worth pursuing.
you're both morons, i am a scientist and did research in atmospheric physics. the consensus is that something is happening to cause climate change, but CO2 models have lost correlation with temperature changes in the past decade. there's not been a consensus on the cause, and fuck both of you for pulling numbers out of your asses, holy shit
Well bud, you're still missing my point. The point is, that if a consumer feels an offer is shady due to reading the TOS and especially if they're non-existant...they shouldn't buy. If they buy reading the TOS and they still get fucked, well, there's not much we as affiliates can do about that, and it's not in our hands.
The primitive point that I was making was that a) a lot of the time a buyer should be able to figure out if they should spend money on the website and b) if you don't feel comfortable with the offer yourself, then don't fucking promote it :angel:
I am aware that a lot of nonethical things happen in this industry, but the OP of this thread seemed to be conflicted and asking advice, and the general consensous was that if they don't feel comfortable, then don't do it. I was explaining why I personally do not feel all that conflicted promoting rebill offers.
the government won't ban rebills. they are a legit way of doing business when done right, look at netflix
Yeah, I know what you mean, I split my day between affiliate marketing and atmospheric physics too.
Bullshit. Payday loans are a legitimate product. The terms are straight forward. Is it generally a good idea to take one out? No. Is it ever a good idea to take one out? I'm sure you could imagine a situation in which it would be. The idea of usury is bullshit. And it's not in any way comparable to deceptive re-bills for phony products. With a payday loan, you know exactly what you're getting and how much it's costing.
Ha, you aren't really this naive are you? You think when you go into a payday loan place the teller (usually some dude making a little above minimage wage who probably can't cut it as a bank teller) will stop a customer just before signing the paper and say "wait, have you really done the math to figure out how much this will cost you? Are you sure you can't ask a family for a small loan to keep the power on?" Do yourself a favor and buy an ebook that includes a free clue. Google "payday loans usury" and report back when the lightbulb goes off. I'm not passing judgement on payday loans in brick and mortar or online, don't have time to give a shit. But don't pretend a storefront changes the hustle.
you can fuck right off with that, do you want me to start pulling out my credentials and papers backing my damn statement
Thanks for that, I was starting to get the feeling I was weird for actually giving a fuck.
Good call. I just started reading Amazon.com: Heaven and Earth: Global Warming, the Missing Science: Ian Plimer: Books and am very impressed with it so far. It's good to see some actual science going into global warming research rather than the shit mass media pumps out and the sheeple swallow.
To OP (Original Poster):
You what the biggest problem of all is? It's not people getting surprised by rebills or anything like that....the MAIN PROBLEM HERE is that THE PRODUCTS DON'T WORK.
If an Acai berry pill really made you lose 30 pounds in 2 weeks, then hell, they would be happy.
If those shitty Google Cash item really showed you how to make 100$ per hour, then there would be not be a single person whining about re bills.
The main problem is that the products DON'T GIVE WHAT THEY PROMISE on their landing page and on TOP OF THAT, they surreptitiously rebill the heck out of the credit card.
The average retard loses both ways and advertiser, affiliates and network enjoy the rewards.
You what the biggest problem of all is? It's not people getting surprised by rebills or anything like that....the MAIN PROBLEM HERE is that THE PRODUCTS DON'T WORK.
If an Acai berry pill really made you lose 30 pounds in 2 weeks, then hell, they would be happy.
If those shitty Google Cash item really showed you how to make 100$ per hour, then there would be not be a single person whining about re bills.
The main problem is that the products DON'T GIVE WHAT THEY PROMISE on their landing page and on TOP OF THAT, they surreptitiously rebill the heck out of the credit card.
The average retard loses both ways and advertiser, affiliates and network enjoy the rewards.