Caffeine-Free Jack3d Equiv?

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I'm looking for a stimulant that can deliver the results that Jack3d seems to be giving people here, without the caffeine. Caffeine simply fucks me up and I can barely handle any of it, so 1/2 scoop of Jack3d and I'm sick to my stomach from the caffeine.

Trying to find something out there without having to go to the docs and get some Addy. And I saw that kid's success story and how much Jack3d helped him, I only want to achieve his status.

Thanks.
 


I would just get some adderall...that stuff is a wonder drug minus its shitty come down if you take a larger dosage.
 
I too would like to know if anyone has found a natural alternative to Jack3d. I would love to be able to harness that level of mental focus but I worry about my alleged weak heart going out on me.
 
I'm looking for a stimulant that can deliver the results that Jack3d seems to be giving people here, without the caffeine. Caffeine simply fucks me up and I can barely handle any of it, so 1/2 scoop of Jack3d and I'm sick to my stomach from the caffeine.

Trying to find something out there without having to go to the docs and get some Addy. And I saw that kid's success story and how much Jack3d helped him, I only want to achieve his status.

Thanks.

lulzspace.

Multivitamin, 15,000% RDA super-strength B vitamins, Gotu Kola, high strength cod liver oil, feverfew, CalEm(Calcium/magnesium/cider vinegar), high strength Magnesium and Calcium, Coline plus Isotol, steel cut oats, vegetable juice, and then a little coffee in the morning. This will give you that mental burst and focus that you're wanting without the need of dangerous supplements.

Protein in the afternoon, and 3MG of melatonin 30 minutes before bed. Works for me, and I survive just fine on 6 hours of sleep a night (4 cycles), and still get all of my classwork and all of my marketing work done.
 
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Multivitamin, 15,000% RDA super-strength B vitamins, Gotu Kola, high strength cod liver oil, feverfew, CalEm(Calcium/magnesium/cider vinegar), high strength Magnesium and Calcium, Coline plus Isotol, steel cut oats, vegetable juice

Sounds delicious! Mind breaking down the role each ingredient plays in your "Mental focus milkshake"?
 
lulzspace.

Multivitamin, 15,000% RDA super-strength B vitamins, Gotu Kola, high strength cod liver oil, feverfew, CalEm(Calcium/magnesium/cider vinegar), high strength Magnesium and Calcium, Coline plus Isotol, steel cut oats, vegetable juice, and then a little coffee in the morning. This will give you that mental burst and focus that you're wanting without the need of dangerous supplements.

Protein in the afternoon, and 3MG of melatonin 30 minutes before bed. Works for me, and I survive just fine on 6 hours of sleep a night (4 cycles), and still get all of my classwork and all of my marketing work done.

+rep QFT
 
The multivitamin keeps the other things running smoothly through your body.
The B vitamins are a good wake-up, better than Emergen-C in my opinion.
The Gotu Kola is the best memory enhancer I've ever used in my life.
The cod liver oil is for your heart, keeps the heartbeat from speeding up.
The feverfew inhibits serotonin and keeps you from getting headaches while screening.
The calcium and magnesium keep you healthy, as well as the cider vinegar.
Isotol also lowers cholesterol levels, improves injured skin and protects the heart.
Choline helps liver function, heart health and memory. (misspelling in post)
STEEL CUT OATS
And on it goes.
 
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The multivitamin keeps the other things running smoothly through your body.
The B vitamins are a good wake-up, better than Emergen-C in my opinion.
The Gotu Kola is the best memory enhancer I've ever used in my life.
The cod liver oil is for your heart, keeps the heartbeat from speeding up.
The feverfew inhibits serotonin and keeps you from getting headaches while screening.
The calcium and magnesium keep you healthy, as well as the cider vinegar.
Isotol also lowers cholesterol levels, improves injured skin and protects the heart.
Choline helps liver function, heart health and memory. (misspelling in post)
STEEL CUT OATS
And on it goes.

Thanks, I was curious about Gotu Kola, cod liver oil and the role of the calcium and magnesium in this concoction. +Rep.
 
Failed treatments to date: Beta blockers, calcium channel blockers, adrenalin injections, high dose ibuprofen, steroids, Trager Mentastics, violent exercise, cafergot suppositories, caffeine, acupuncture, marijuana, Percodan, Midrine, Tenormin, Sansert, homeopathics. No results. No results...
 
Just grow some nuts and use your will power.

Adderall is addicting as fuck and you're heath will go to shit because you'll stop eating normally, and it also absolutely destroys your sex drive.

It's fun at first, but once you build a tolerance it just starts getting ugly...

SUMMARY: It's not worth it.

Wrong thread.
 
strange... i can drink a couple cups of coffee and a few diet cokes after 3 scoops and still be fine. might try meth, i hear that works pretty well.
 
Regen you must piss about a hundred dollars a day.

Nah, it's not that bad at all. Keep in mind, each bottle will last you anywhere from three to six months. That's about $200 total per half-year. $400 per year. Rate that against Jack3d and you'll see where I'm coming from.
 
Tim Ferris included some of the concentration stuff in his Brainquicken. Vinpocetine is supposed to work pretty well.
 
The key ingredient in Jack3d that actually helps you concentrate is 1,3 dimethylamylamine. You can get it is capsule form at bodybuilding.com and elsewhere. All of the focus/concentration/stimulant effects of Jack3d, none of the caffeine jitters or creatine water loss.

Definitely an improvement. Not as good as adderall, but still pretty effective.
 
these are a few my favorite health treats. obviously none will make you feel cracked out ballin but the ginseng vials or he shou wu can give you a nice lift. he shou wu definitely positively affects the sex drive. it is a close relative to japanese knotweed, the plant resveratrol is often extracted from for commercial supplements.

whole food multivitamin
twin labs dmae h3
ginseng and royal jelly vial
prepared he shou wu tincture
green smoothie - fresh fruit + greens + blender
omega 3-6-9 capsules
 
I'm looking for a stimulant that can deliver the results that Jack3d seems to be giving people here, without the caffeine. Caffeine simply fucks me up and I can barely handle any of it, so 1/2 scoop of Jack3d and I'm sick to my stomach from the caffeine.

Trying to find something out there without having to go to the docs and get some Addy. And I saw that kid's success story and how much Jack3d helped him, I only want to achieve his status.

Thanks.

Going for the natural--
Have you tried coca tea? Coca tea (made from coca leaves) works for me. Before somebody asks, no it doesn't get you high, but it keeps you going. It's also legal in the U.S...

Also, have you tried yerba mate? It has caffeine, but it doesn't give you the jitters like coffeee or black tea.