Damn that poker thread.

Here is an example of the kind of stuff you can see for cash games, the scope of information you can get is pretty incredible.

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As you can see my cash game stats are piss poor, but from this screenshot I can see that I am just way too aggresive for the limits I play. In the low limit games there are so many fish that you just can't be aggressive, you're best off waiting for good hands and getting value on them. My aggression in SB and BB is simply awful.

It's not really enough hands to get solid data on but whatever, I'm grinding SNG's until I have a larger bankroll and then I'll hit the cash tables.
 


I was about to live in my van and play poker fulltime.

I know, I'm a sick degen :(
 
Just.
Stop.
Now.

You can't control yourself. Keep playing and the odds, which control the outcome, mean you'll lose, lose, lose.

I hated the sick feeling I got from my little losing forays into gambling. Who's in charge: you or your impulses?

The only way to win is to stop for good. Right now.
 
tigertom said:
Just.
Stop.
Now.

You can't control yourself. Keep playing and the odds, which control the outcome, mean you'll lose, lose, lose.

I hated the sick feeling I got from my little losing forays into gambling. Who's in charge: you or your impulses?

The only way to win is to stop for good. Right now.
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Bad advice,

I have 3 friends that live off poker, if you keep playing you can be just like them. Just work on your game and on your patience, it's a very lucrative en devour if you put time into it.

1 quit his last year of pharmacy in university
1 never worked a day in his life after high school
1 got invite to vegas WSOP twice and makes a killing
 
zimok said:
Bad advice,

I have 3 friends that live off poker, if you keep playing you can be just like them. Just work on your game and on your patience, it's a very lucrative en devour if you put time into it.

1 quit his last year of pharmacy in university
1 never worked a day in his life after high school
1 got invite to vegas WSOP twice and makes a killing
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Also bad advice. Telling someone who might potentially have an addiction to keep on with the plan because you know a few successful cases? For every success story there's probably about 5 failures.
 
You were playing wayyyy to high for your roll. For $40/80 NL, you would want a min $150-200K bankroll before even thinking of taking a shot at those stakes. for $25/50 NL, you want atleast $100K (20 buyins). Even if you're profitable in those games, which is very unlikely since you'd be playing against the top online pros at stakes that high, if you're playing under-rolled you'll inevitably go broke due to short term variance. Bankroll management is probably the most important skill you need to have in order to be a winning player.
 
xentech said:
As you can see my cash game stats are piss poor, but from this screenshot I can see that I am just way too aggresive for the limits I play. In the low limit games there are so many fish that you just can't be aggressive, you're best off waiting for good hands and getting value on them. My aggression in SB and BB is simply awful.

It's not really enough hands to get solid data on but whatever, I'm grinding SNG's until I have a larger bankroll and then I'll hit the cash tables.
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Actually your not too aggressive at all. You raise too little and limp too often, You 3-bet a little too much (although this stat isn't very accurate over such a small sample size). You also play too much from EP and the blind's.
 
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Falian said:
Actually your not too aggressive at all. You raise too little and limp too often, You 3-bet a little too much (although this stat isn't very accurate over such a small sample size). You also play too much from EP and the blind's.

What site are you playing on? .5/1 NL is a pretty tough level on most sites.
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Pokerstars .05/.10.

When I said aggressive I meant to say loose. I've been playing far too lose for those limits, a lot of maniac players.
 
xentech said:
Pokerstars .05/.10.

When I said aggressive I meant to say loose. I've been playing far too lose for those limits, a lot of maniac players.
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Your not too loose, your too passive (see: PFR %).

You enter the pot with this range: 55+,A2s+,K5s+,Q7s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,A7o+,A5o,K9o+,Q9o+,J9o+.

But you only raise with this range: 77+,A9s+,KTs+,QTs+,AJo+,KQo
 
Falian said:
Your not too loose, your too passive (see: PFR %).

You enter the pot with this range: 55+,A2s+,K5s+,Q7s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,A7o+,A5o,K9o+,Q9o+,J9o+.

But you only raise with this range: 77+,A9s+,KTs+,QTs+,AJo+,KQo
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I agree I'm not raising enough but that's nothing to do with being loose.

Loose/tight is your hand selection and how much you raise preflop and how you play post flop relates to your aggression. I'm playing loose-passive which is weak. I should be raising a lot more but I also shouldn't be entering into as many pots as I am from EP.
 
Subdigo:

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This is a perfect example of variance. Each line represents a different player run through a variance simulator. This is a 100k hand sample, players are set to win 5PTBB/100. This is why proper BRM is key.
 
xentech said:
I agree I'm not raising enough but that's nothing to do with being loose.

Loose/tight is your hand selection and how much you raise preflop and how you play post flop relates to your aggression. I'm playing loose-passive which is weak. I should be raising a lot more but I also shouldn't be entering into as many pots as I am from EP.
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I know how it works ;).

Your postflop aggression is fine according to your Aggression Factor.

29/20 is considered optimal play for 6-max, at least for right now.
 
I think the problem is that the OP isn't playing rationally.

If you just play and play and play, you lose. You know you're an addict when you dip into the rent money.

I've read there are three games where skill can change the odds; poker, blackjack and horse-racing. But, if you have a demonic impulse just to keep playing, regardless, even at these, the odds will whittle down your stake until you're bust.

The rest are just money pits. Anyone who tells you they have a 'system' for dice or roulette is a liar or deluded.
 
i still dont understand how anyone can be good at horse racing. i swear every fuckin time i pick a horse it comes in last no matter what its odds are
 
tigertom said:
I think the problem is that the OP isn't playing rationally.

If you just play and play and play, you lose. You know you're an addict when you dip into the rent money.

I've read there are three games where skill can change the odds; poker, blackjack and horse-racing. But, if you have a demonic impulse just to keep playing, regardless, even at these, the odds will whittle down your stake until you're bust.

The rest are just money pits. Anyone who tells you they have a 'system' for dice or roulette is a liar or deluded.
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see now here's the thing. with Poker, there are no house odds. With Blackjack, the house always has the advantage - yeah you can boost your odds, but without cheating you can't turn them in your favor. In horse racing I have no idea
 
lol... So after all of that I logged into my old ass Full Tilt account (I had two accounts, which is the reason I said I probably couldn't have cashed out anyway) and it had $9 in it. I decided to actually play and not gamble, for a week, just to see if I could do it. I'm on day three.

The spike starts when I moved away from small NL games to micro PL games.

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God damn it's boring.
 
papajohn56 said:
so what's better, full tilt or pokerstars?
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They're both huge and accept U.S. players so can't really go wrong with either. In my experience, FT is better for cash games because of rakeback and PS for tournaments/SNG. You'll never get enough FPP at PS to really matter unless you're a frequent, long term player.


Just remember, don't sign up for FT without rakeback.
 
cindua said:
They're both huge and accept U.S. players so can't really go wrong with either. In my experience, FT is better for cash games because of rakeback and PS for tournaments/SNG. You'll never get enough FPP at PS to really matter unless you're a frequent, long term player.


Just remember, don't sign up for FT without rakeback.
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I feel like a moron for having no idea what any of this means.
 
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