Obama brings teleprompters to staff meetings and middle school classrooms



FTC-Hater said:
It's like every voter in America is on a board of directors and we just hired a new CEO. If every time the new CEO came in he just said, "Well look we've 'inherited' a lot of problems" how would you feel?

I would be angry that he has the audacity to shift the blame onto the last person when we've hired him to take over and clean up the mess.
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You have a point, but from the new CEO's perspective - when they walk into the board meeting they are being accused of causing most of the mess and being told that the solution is to be more like the last CEO.
 
FTC-Hater said:
If it was directed at you I would've quoted the video. It's directed at everyone who shifts the blame to Bush. Yes, Bush did a number on this country. Yes, he put America in a very tough position.

Most republicans, just like democrats, just bitch back and forth. Doesn't matter what said party in power does it's not done the right way. But understand that some, on both sides, critique because they believe what he is doing is fundamentally wrong (just like they did during the reign of Bush).

No one "could get all that shit done" in under a year. We're talking 10-20 years of horrendous decisions that have and will continue to cripple America. The job of the opposing parties are to critique - the job of the media is to sensationalize. Take everything you see and hear with a grain of salt knowing that.

But what bugs most people on this forum, and core republicans who aren't "playing politics" is that they believe Obama is doing it wrong. Most won't stoop down to make fun of how he talks, make fun of how he looks, how he walks, whatever, that's the media. Most will admit, as I have, that he is probably one of the greatest orators in the past hundred years.

What his great speeches cover up though is the misguided attempts at trying to fix something with money when only American ingenuity can do that. Only free markets and American ingenuity can fix this mess - but due to the spending, and the calls for lowering the deficit there is nothing Obama can do but raise taxes.

And since he decides to tax the ones the provide the jobs he cripples the engine of the economy. It's a vicious cycle that needs to be stopped.

Those who continue to cry out do so out of desperation because no one wants to see the country go more downhill - but with the reckless spending, and lack of confidence in Washington, it's inevitable that this is only the beginning if more isn't done right now.

True conservatives and liberals alike, ones that don't just play politics, have been going on about Obama's misguided policies and his simple lack of logic when it comes to the economy since he first announced them during his campaign. Only now is it the "cool" thing to talk about on CNN, or Fox.

Edit: Fuck, read that over and I sounded like HellBlazer on a good day. I usually never get involved in politics - such a time waste.
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This was some good stuff. Only a true socialist could argue with this.
 
Moxie said:
You have a point, but from the new CEO's perspective - when they walk into the board meeting they are being accused of causing most of the mess and being told that the solution is to be more like the last CEO.
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I agree.

That's the media mainly putting that spin on things I believe. I don't think the vast majority of Americans want Obama to adopt Bush like bills or are accusing him of all the problems facing the nation.

We elect a president, like a new CEO, to change the way things are going. Often this means taking things in an opposite direction. Bush spent big, Obama spends big. Bush had no regard for the deficit, Obama has no regard for the deficit.

The only difference is that by political terminology Bush was not supposed to have done what he did.

There's no perfect solution but as I said before the President simply needs to take responsibility. Say what's done is done and be accountable - trying to figure out who should be blamed for what amount of job loss, or economic woe is a zero sum game and highly unproductive.

...Almost as unproductive as meeting khloe kardashian.
 
The problem is that Republicans simply can't open their mouthes and say anything intelligent. Instead they lead right into the talking points they were told to go on about and that the President has prepared for.

If you tell me New York is a state in the U.S, and if I remember that, when someone asks me to name one state I can sure as hell give them one and I can be damn fucking confident when I say it.

Ask me anything else and you'll get a blank stare, a lie, or i'll reword the question to involve what I do know (e.g - New York).

I watched the above on CNN and you know what the President won, hands down. He did an amazing job taking every question and answering it, lying, or rewording it. The real problem is that republicans don't know what they're talking about so they get on the bandwagon of preaching some talking point and can't tell if the President is lying, rewording their own question, or simply answering their question when the time comes.

The President plays the anger card, and he does it well. He goes of the emotion of the American people desperate for something to change and when they see the people stopping these bills with nothing but fluff to say they side with the one verbally destroying them. They side with what emotion they can relate to - anger. The republicans had no fire, no passion, they just looked like fucking dimwits as the President slammed them every time. Jesus.

Republicans know nothing about healthcare/the economy, know no proof as to why what they're preaching is better, they simply fail to argue with an authoritive voice and with proper arguments. They fail period.

In the end the President can't be blamed for the faults of the country now because there's no one, except for Ron, who has the balls to stop going to country dinners and start learning some facts about all this and blasting the President every time they get.

It's shameful, so shameful, that with all the problems facing this country they can't get a decent fucking argument together. They can't pick up a book on economics - discover what is wrong and how it got so wrong. How can you have the biggest deficit projected ever, have a country with sky rocketing unemployment, have a faulty health care system, and not win a debate! It's pathetic. It's a disservice to the American people that such un-educated morons can be in such a high position.

Frustrating beyond belief.
 
FTC-Hater said:
The problem is that Republicans simply can't open their mouthes and say anything intelligent. Instead they lead right into the talking points they were told to go on about and that the President has prepared for.

If you tell me New York is a state in the U.S, and if I remember that, when someone asks me to name one state I can sure as hell give them one and I can be damn fucking confident when I say it.

Ask me anything else and you'll get a blank stare, a lie, or i'll reword the question to involve what I do know (e.g - New York).

I watched the above on CNN and you know what the President won, hands down. He did an amazing job taking every question and answering it, lying, or rewording it. The real problem is that republicans don't know what they're talking about so they get on the bandwagon of preaching some talking point and can't tell if the President is lying, rewording their own question, or simply answering their question when the time comes.

The President plays the anger card, and he does it well. He goes of the emotion of the American people desperate for something to change and when they see the people stopping these bills with nothing but fluff to say they side with the one verbally destroying them. They side with what emotion they can relate to - anger. The republicans had no fire, no passion, they just looked like fucking dimwits as the President slammed them every time. Jesus.

Republicans know nothing about healthcare/the economy, know no proof as to why what they're preaching is better, they simply fail to argue with an authoritive voice and with proper arguments. They fail period.

In the end the President can't be blamed for the faults of the country now because there's no one, except for Ron, who has the balls to stop going to country dinners and start learning some facts about all this and blasting the President every time they get.

It's shameful, so shameful, that with all the problems facing this country they can't get a decent fucking argument together. They can't pick up a book on economics - discover what is wrong and how it got so wrong. How can you have the biggest deficit projected ever, have a country with sky rocketing unemployment, have a faulty health care system, and not win a debate! It's pathetic. It's a disservice to the American people that such un-educated morons can be in such a high position.

Frustrating beyond belief.
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It's so true. I saw a tweet from some Repub woman after that thing where she said "Need an independent fact checker to check his statements. Got his autograph!"

When you've gotten to the point where the opposition doesn't even know the truth and needs an independent fact checker to tell them Obama's lies, all is lost.
 
hellblazer said:
I saw a tweet from some Repub woman after that thing where she said "Need an independent fact checker to check his statements. Got his autograph!"
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That's congresswoman Virginia Foxx. Weeks ago she was saying health care reform was more dangerous than terrorism and that Obama was going to kill the seniors.

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"I can haz autograph?"
 
I think this video best sums up the entire discussion here.

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pointless...
 
@conv3rsion: I gotta hand it to you man. Of all people, you have stuck with that socialist P.O.S. from the beginning. It takes some serious resolve to ride it out this long without folding your hand in the face of obvious failure.
It must be hard to look at yourself in the mirror every morning but nobody is ever going to call you a flip-flopper. No sirree.....
 
did you hear obama say he couldn't find credible economists who would backup that interventionism causes problems.



lol

edit: oh yeah, i forgot what "credible" means.
 
Wasn't Obama supposed to close the Guantanamo Bay Detention Facilities by last month?

Whitehouse said:
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, in order to effect the appropriate disposition of individuals currently detained by the Department of Defense at the Guantánamo Bay Naval Base (Guantánamo) and promptly to close detention facilities at Guantánamo, consistent with the national security and foreign policy interests of the United States and the interests of justice, I hereby order as follows:

Sec. 3. Closure of Detention Facilities at Guantánamo. The detention facilities at Guantánamo for individuals covered by this order shall be closed as soon as practicable, and no later than 1 year from the date of this order.

BARACK OBAMA
THE WHITE HOUSE,
January 22, 2009

Closure Of Guantanamo Detention Facilities | The White House
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LotsOfZeros said:
@conv3rsion: I gotta hand it to you man. Of all people, you have stuck with that socialist P.O.S. from the beginning. It takes some serious resolve to ride it out this long without folding your hand in the face of obvious failure.
It must be hard to look at yourself in the mirror every morning but nobody is ever going to call you a flip-flopper. No sirree.....
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You might as well hand it to 50% of the nation as well. Personally, my respect for our president increased a ton after he cremated the GOP last week.
 
LotsOfZeros said:
@conv3rsion: I gotta hand it to you man. Of all people, you have stuck with that socialist P.O.S. from the beginning. It takes some serious resolve to ride it out this long without folding your hand in the face of obvious failure.
It must be hard to look at yourself in the mirror every morning but nobody is ever going to call you a flip-flopper. No sirree.....
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1) I think he is more pragmatist than socialist
2) It's been a WHOLE year, definitely time to call his presidency a failure. While I know you guys love it when we talk about the last guy, that guy wasn't even in his Iraq war yet at this point.
3) I don't give a fuck what people think about me
4) The alternative (and there was only one) would have been ridiculous and a huge majority of Americans agreed.
 
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american politics pretty much summarized:

republican: "you disagree with me, you're a socialist! go back to russia!"
democrat: "you disagree with me, you're a republican anti-social prick! Go back to texas!"


See, thats your whole issue broes. I wonder why nobody remembers that the US used to withstand the biggest threats by just standing united against them and acting instead of preaching party-related crap
 
PeerFly said:
You might as well hand it to 50% of the nation as well. Personally, my respect for our president increased a ton after he cremated the GOP last week.
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Did your respect increase because of how he spoke, or what he spoke of?

That's the biggest thing. He destroyed the GOP, but only because no one took the initiative to find out what he was talking about so they could argue back.

Total incompetence by the GOP.

And Conv3ersion's 4th point is extremely true. When you have fucking John McCain, who might as well be brain dead, leading the pack you know shit isn't gonna be right.
 
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