Wait til they discover the Lolicon section...
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I'm definitely not comfortable with the rape/violence theme and such, but I feel that if they start banning one thing, it'll be precedence to ban lesser themes, until basically 'above moderate' items are censored for the sake of the feeble minded.
I'm of the thought that you have to draw a line in the sand somewhere. But where that line is drawn is the stumbling block for many.
I tend to follow the principle I was taught on how to approach life:
Is what you about to do or engage in up-building to yourself? Or will it tear you down? That principle has worked well over the years,
Either people are free to do whatever floats their boat or they are not. As long as something does not harm another person against their will, that thing should be legal.
For example.
Child porn involving actual children should be illegal, because it harms children involved in the creation of that item. Children are too immature to make decisions that impact their life, so adults have to make the decision that results in less harm.
Child porn involving computer generated children should not be illegal, because nobody is harmed during the creation of that item.
Charging someone with online enticement should continue to be legal, because the person charged with it was intending on meeting up with a real child, not a computer-generated child.
MMA fights should be legal. Two adults enter, knowing they are going to get hurt. By the application of this logic, licensed duels should also be legal.
Running up to someone in the street and punching them in the face should be illegal, because only one participant is willing.
Computer games involving massive blood and gore when I rip out your computer avatar's still-beating heart should be legal. The only real damage done there is your ego - because you have been pwned.
Marrying 8 willing adult women should be legal. 9 adults want to get married, they should be able to do so.
Marrying 8 willing adult women and a goat and a tree should not be legal. Goats and trees cannot give consent. You will just have to settle for fucking that goat out of wedlock, sir. And, Mr. Treefucker, you're just a sick fucker.
Just because something is not illegal doesn't mean that the item should not be vilified by civilized people. Mr. Goatfucker is an idiot. I should be free to call him an idiot to his face, right before the duel.
If all it takes to get something banned is the majority of people being against that thing, we're going to see a lot of things banned and a lot of freedom lost.
Why isn't freedom cherished anymore?
We need it, badly. We've been without real freedom for so long that we forget what it is like. Instead, we have a society where people call for the banning of anything that offends them and the politicians looking for higher poll numbers respond with glee.
For example.
Child porn involving actual children should be illegal, because it harms children involved in the creation of that item. Children are too immature to make decisions that impact their life, so adults have to make the decision that results in less harm.
Child porn involving computer generated children should not be illegal, because nobody is harmed during the creation of that item.
Charging someone with online enticement should continue to be legal, because the person charged with it was intending on meeting up with a real child, not a computer-generated child.
MMA fights should be legal. Two adults enter, knowing they are going to get hurt. By the application of this logic, licensed duels should also be legal.
Running up to someone in the street and punching them in the face should be illegal, because only one participant is willing.
Computer games involving massive blood and gore when I rip out your computer avatar's still-beating heart should be legal. The only real damage done there is your ego - because you have been pwned.
Marrying 8 willing adult women should be legal. 9 adults want to get married, they should be able to do so.
Marrying 8 willing adult women and a goat and a tree should not be legal. Goats and trees cannot give consent. You will just have to settle for fucking that goat out of wedlock, sir. And, Mr. Treefucker, you're just a sick fucker.
Just because something is not illegal doesn't mean that the item should not be vilified by civilized people. Mr. Goatfucker is an idiot. I should be free to call him an idiot to his face, right before the duel.
If all it takes to get something banned is the majority of people being against that thing, we're going to see a lot of things banned and a lot of freedom lost.
Why isn't freedom cherished anymore?
We need it, badly. We've been without real freedom for so long that we forget what it is like. Instead, we have a society where people call for the banning of anything that offends them and the politicians looking for higher poll numbers respond with glee.
Those games are awesome, I laughed so hard I had to stop playing to recover.
RapeLay is pretty twisted though. I mean I'm all for twisted, I can sit and watch Takashi Miike films all day long, but that one was sick :ugone2far:
It did still contain the messages that god loves rapists and if you fail to impregnate girls you DIE. that made me lol.
I've never played RapePlay, I might have to now, but for reals, the dating sims are kind of fun. It's like part rpg and part choose your own adventure book. They're actually really fun. I'd recommend Do You Like Horny Bunnies 1 and 2 to people if you're into that. A lot of the 3D ones kind of blow though. I also beat this Love Hina one on the GBA for some reason, it was only like 2 hours long.
lets meow meow is another that made me laugh a lot, but I don't remember it being quite as graphic. my idiot of an ex infected all 3 computers downloading rapelay though, so I dunno if theres a clean version.
This is rather funny, but I agree it has been around for years. I don't think that having a game where you rape girls is going to cause more girls to get raped. If video games were really so influential we would have some serious fucking problems due to the nature of our games.
Why isn't there this much out cry form CNN about Australia banning small breasts from everything. Because small breasts means thoughts of little girls which means pedos! Ohz Noz!
Edit: ROFL at the CNN reporting, she makes it sound like we need to go to war with Japan. Japan craps all over women's rights and has pornographic games! These hedonistic non-Christians need to taken care of, Oh the outcry!
Why isn't there this much out cry form CNN about Australia banning small breasts from everything. Because small breasts means thoughts of little girls which means pedos! Ohz Noz!
Edit: ROFL at the CNN reporting, she makes it sound like we need to go to war with Japan. Japan craps all over women's rights and has pornographic games! These hedonistic non-Christians need to taken care of, Oh the outcry!
That's got nothing to do with it. The pixelation of porn stems from old taboos about genitalia. But the only reason the pixelation is still illegal is because Yakuza want to corner both a mainstream market with the pixelated porn, and an underground market willing to pay premium prices for machines that remove the pixelation. Yakuza are extremely well-connected with law makers and bureaucrats.
If I had to speculate about the source of the fantasies here I would say it's because the culture in general is so stiff and procedural and polite and conformist that when time comes for an escape, people really fucking escape and indulge all their pent-up tendencies all at once. Most people here understand the need for that escapism, and see it as necessary for social cohesion and maintaining conformity outside of those narrow escape avenues. One is sexual escapism via porn (not the sex trade, I think that serves a different purpose here), and another is alcohol, which allows them to say whatever crazy shit they want within a limited context, and the next day everybody knows that nothing said during the drinking binge has any validity anymore. That limited escapism is accepted. But try that shit during your 9 to 5? You'll be an instant outcast.
Some of the stuff here is sick, but the point is that almost nobody does it in real life. It's made for porn.
Note: child porn is definitely illegal in Japan. The debate is over virtual imagery. But I've never heard of anything involving kids, it's teen school girls etc.
Go Japan. This is my 'hood.
Google Images (with safe search filter turned off) -> Type in Lolicon , nuff said.
Well, I've never seen any lolicon stuff with girls that young-looking in actual sex acts, just "cute" characters looking "adorable" or whatever the reader thinks of it. I see a couple sexual ones in the search results, but those are written in Spanish or Portuguese or something. I've never seen that here, and I live on a street full of porn shops and manga shops.
Anyway, you picked out that one point but the more important point was that the debate is over virtual imagery, not real images.
Right, I know, but I was just pointing out how you said 'never' which I'd kind of find hard to believe.
Speaking of rape role play (shame can't find the video itself on youtube) hehe
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01MRUuTM5TE]YouTube - Lip my stocking[/ame]
I'm confused, I've always been under the impression that most republicans were for sacrificing civil liberties for the sake of security.
absolutely, and for more government control of people's lives. Small government only applies to taxes. I was refering to hellblazer's stance, not cardine's response.
Ahh ok, thats what confused me thought you were referring to cardine. But if you ask me both parties are fucked in the head in their own special ways.
I made it to Part 17 (XVII) before I got tired of reading it. But I wonder what would be the worse vice this guy could have thought of in the late 1800, that also wouldn't be considered some form of Satanism or mental illness
And I wonder how many ways you can interpret this:
I guess like in the old days, its not rape if they're married. But also seems like you could get married pretty young here in the early days of the US.