12.000 year old structure unexplained

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Both these videos are peppered with more conspiratorial stuff towards the end but I just find the rest interesting.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo0ZkgqM1TE]‪12,000 Years Old Unexplained Structure‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxv66CXx4tQ&NR]‪Underwater Structure Thought To Be Over 14,000 Years Old & Man-made‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]
 
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All these "ancient people didn't have these technologies" conspiracies rest on that very assumption. Well maybe just maybe they were more advanced than we think.
 
I knew from the instant I read the the title that I would see crazy hair Tsoukalos somewhere in the thread.
 
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I think that news will surely increase the no. of tourists rushing to Turkey to see that place
 
I don't personally find much significance in this type of thing. Just look at what our modern civilization has managed to accomplish in the past 100 or 200 years. Why is it so mind blowing that prior civilizations were good at math and engineering, among other things?

Especially considering back then, it's not like people were flying around the world, sharing technology with humans 15,000kms away. Civilizations would come and go without ever knowing each other existed.
 
The most interesting thing about this is the fact that, assuming the carbon-dating is accurate, civilizations have been relatively sophisticated for a long time. There's no way aliens did any of this shit, because if they did, they'd do a much better job.
 
I hate that old bag from the 1st vid who is dumbfounded that there weren't any tools around. What kind of skilled and professional craftsman leaves his tools behind?
 
Marc_L said:
All these "ancient people didn't have these technologies" conspiracies rest on that very assumption. Well maybe just maybe they were more advanced than we think.
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This. Why do these conspiracy theorists always say they didn't have the technology to build the pyramids and all this other shit? The evidence clearly shows they did. Maybe they had better technology back then than we do today.
 
amateursurgeon said:
They didn't need clever technology. They had an unlimited supply of slaves.
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Unlimited slaves doesn't explain some of the stuff they did. Modern stone cutters are clueless as to how they were able to do precise granite carvings like those found in Egypt and Puma Punku.

There was some amazing lifting going on also. The great pyramid has 80 ton blocks that were lifted up high and set in place. Puma Punku has pieces as big as 130 tons.

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1,000 ton statue that was supposedly moved over 100 miles on land :

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stone cutting is easy to precision when you have 20 guys per cut and a week/month to do each cut. Also, they were motivated because if they got it wrong they were probably killed.


1,000 ton statue = what 500 cars? You do not think 20,000 slaves can pull 500 cars? I am certain the statue was being rolled on a type of wheel?


80 tons is not really that much weight.

1 tractor trailer container can carry 55 tons - and I am certain a bunch or people could lift it. 80 tons would not be that much more inconceivable.
 
What would a 500 year old screw driver look like? Chances are the handle would be completely bio-degraded, and the metal would be oxidized beyond recognition.

A brand new civilization well into the industrial/information age would easily think it was just a primitive tool used by cave men. That's assuming any bit of it existed after 500 years. It could be reduced to red dust.

Even if there was crazy technology 1000 or even 5000 years ago (or longer). We wouldn't have much evidence of it beyond stone work.
 
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