130k Cash: Should I build 4k MFA's on sand, again?

Should I go ahead and build the MFA's?

  • Yes, don't be a pussy!

    Votes: 85 72.0%
  • No, sling berries and e-book instead.

    Votes: 33 28.0%

  • Total voters
    118

clyde

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130k Cash: 4k MFA's on sand, again?

So I just got a PM from some member advising me against this.

I can afford to lose the money but people just been telling me it's not something feasible and I'd be better off doing something else with my money.

I think it's feasible because it's the only method I've ever made any real money with and the ROI is in 2-3 months.

Googe have paid me 5k+/month for my last batch of 200 sites and I don't see why they won't pay me for the other 3.8k sites when I do build them. They'll be split over 10 accounts, 10 different IP's and I will be extra careful as not to interlink them in any way.

I also do not use GWT or G. Anal as I've had sites being nuked from this previously.

Thoughts? Please place your votes.

My principal is simple, people that make the most money take the most risks!
 


Does your time have a value to you? If so, spend that money on something that isn't going to take every waking moment of the next 6 months to do. You'd be better off buying one or two established sites and concentrating on them.
 
I have no idea how you can manage so many sites on the go, I have around 25 now and I'm ready to start trimming down on some of them. It just takes the focus away from any site that deserves more time with better content and better links (for me that's the case with my car insurance blog that could blow the rest of them out the water with Adsense). I'd go for less sites and perhaps invest the cash in content and links?! BTW, is this just Adsense, or are you using Amazon, CJ and the likes?!:xmas-smiley-016:
 
Developing real assets?

Does your time have a value to you? If so, spend that money on something that isn't going to take every waking moment of the next 6 months to do. You'd be better off buying one or two established sites and concentrating on them.

Yes! lol.

but no, this won't take much of my time, in fact I will have a lot of free time while doing this so time isn't the concern here.

One or two established websites are a lot riskier to me since one Google algo slap/change your income is gone from $xxx to 0.

I have links to such things happening but I'm too lazy to look them up now. :xmas-smiley-016:

I have a Bot that can setup the wordpress sites for me. I have a VA who's now trained at everything else so what I do is pretty much just pick the niches, create Google doc and pass everything to her so she can order articles etc.

I have no idea how you can manage so many sites on the go, I have around 25 now and I'm ready to start trimming down on some of them. It just takes the focus away from any site that deserves more time with better content and better links (for me that's the case with my car insurance blog that could blow the rest of them out the water with Adsense). I'd go for less sites and perhaps invest the cash in content and links?! BTW, is this just Adsense, or are you using Amazon, CJ and the likes?!:xmas-smiley-016:

Automation and MS Excel.
 
i think you already had the answer in you, just like before when everybody advised you against building 1000 mfas and you still did it.

lucky for you it worked out well, but it is still very risky, that's why you have doubts. what if Google starts changing their algo and put less weight on emds? what if google delist sites with only profile links etc? what if this and what if that... you just don't know.

the logical thing to do is to use some of the money and invest on longer term projects (build a bigger authority site, list building)... or invest in tangible assets like real estate?

you don't have to choose between 1 or 2, you can do both 1 & 2. diversify.

at least if something happens to your mfa, it's not total loss.
 
Does your time have a value to you? If so, spend that money on something that isn't going to take every waking moment of the next 6 months to do. You'd be better off buying one or two established sites and concentrating on them.

One or two established websites are a lot riskier to me since one Google algo slap/change your income is gone from $xxx to 0.

Why not split the difference between the two methods and report which is better. Go with what you know with the MFA but take half the money and buy a nice established site, you might be afraid of a slap or deindex but by its very nature of being an established, quality site you won't have to do the kinds of stuff google would slap you down for in the first place.
 
Are you fully in the black with the last batch of sites?

As long as you keep up the positive cash flow while building them, I'd say do it. However, I would seriously start thinking up some other plans for after this round of sites. They might make money for a long time, but I'm paranoid and prefer to diversify as soon as it's feasible.
 
Originally Posted by clyde
One or two established websites are a lot riskier to me since one Google algo slap/change your income is gone from $xxx to 0.


Who says you have to rely on Google at all? I haven't relied on Google for traffic in 5 years.

You ever consider building your own offer and having other people promote it for you? I get way more traffic to my sites than Google could ever send. I'm serious man, with a tiny fraction of that money you could develop your own kick ass offer. Think about it! Let me put it another way. I know dozens and dozens of online millionaires. Not one did it via MFA sites, auto blogging, or other bullshit like that ...
 
hey clyde, i think you should do it.. however I would like to know how you score more adsense accounts and have the money deposited to you. I know you said something about taking over your VA's or workers adsense.. but how do you get the money deposited to you cause i was thinking Google would see a connection on the bank accounts.

Can you shed light on this on how you get them, even if its in PM with me?

I am right at 200 sites myself and I am almost out of URL channels. Can you let me know some info? Thanks
 
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Who says you have to rely on Google at all? I haven't relied on Google for traffic in 5 years.

You ever consider building your own offer and having other people promote it for you? I get way more traffic to my sites than Google could ever send. I'm serious man, with a tiny fraction of that money you could develop your own kick ass offer. Think about it! Let me put it another way. I know dozens and dozens of online millionaires. Not one did it via MFA sites, auto blogging, or other bullshit like that ...

Yes but this, I have 0 knowledge of.

Can you help me?
 
Can't speak for clyde but in my experience most guys don't have the balls to drop 120k on a site. "What if it doesn't work out", "what if it doesn't make as much as I hope it will", "what if I can't sell it", etc. etc.

Most times it makes more sense to just find a site you like, hell it can be one for sale, and just duplicate it (obviously trying to make it even better). Most ecomm sites usually just aren't worth purchasing for any real money UNLESS they have a large base of REPEAT customers.

Forums and community based sites would be another group worth purchasing, but that's about it. Pretty much everything else can be reverse engineered in a way that's cheaper/safer/less risky than buying.

Yes but this, I have 0 knowledge of.

Can you help me?
Easy...

1. Make a list of the top 10 most popular Clickbank products.
2. Pick the one you like the most.
3. Reverse engineer it.
4. Profit.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for innovating and doing your own thing. I'm not suggesting that just going around copying successful sites verbatim is the best way to go. But it's a great way to get started, and IMO it's 10X better than spending your time and money on MFA sites.

Once you have your team (designer, coder, copywriter, etc.) you can get creative and hopefully come up with your own ideas for products, or at least work on creating better mousetraps...
 
If you've got a way to make the majority of your sites have a positive ROI, while keeping your costs per site down & quality acceptable to stay indexed for a good while, then you'd be a friggin WaFo goer to pass up the chance.

But one big trap is to think about how to use all $130K on this project... Don't make the sites fit the money... Use just enough money to fit the ideal number of sites for this... Things work out much nicer that way.

How are you monetizing these, exactly? That could make all the difference...