2 month challenge before "Real" Job.

ItsYoBuddy

ItsYoBuddy

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I don't feel like making a blog and I figure I could write down my progress in this thread of the newbie section(real original, right?). I have been slacking off for awhile and not really working as hard as I would like. I have free time, that's not the problem, maybe my success before just made me lazy. I had a goal and used AM to buy myself a new Yamaha Motif keyboard. Well I got that and ever since then became lazy.

I am going to electrician school in September. My goal is to make enough consistently before going. I will probably end up going to school still but I would feel better knowing I am making a good amount of money daily. My other goal is to save enough this whole year to attend Full Sail and go to school for producing music/becoming an music engineer. (Hopefully end up going September 2010.)

I am going to do something every day and record my progress here, making at least one post a day. I have a budget of $10-$15k. I say in between because I rather spend $5-$10k in testing and after finding what works best, throw the rest into the profitable campaign and make back what I lost and hopefully gain more.

My most success has been with facebook. But with the click fraud I stopped using them. But I got back some money and will be using that money to spend on testing new types of offers I've never explored. I never used adwords too much and I just put a campaign up on the content network. Bizopp offer of course and we shall see what happens.

And my challenge begins...
 


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Day 1

Alright, so yesterday I put up a bizopp campaign on adwords. The ads were approved and I was using content network. I figure it might take a little bit to start showing ads. Well over 6-9 hours I was getting no traffic. I checked today and I got 3 clicks. Not sure what I am doing wrong, I put a bunch of sites on the content network and have my bids at $1.00.

I did get 3 clicks and one sale for $37.00 and spend $1.39. Out of the 3, one went to the offer. Not good enough, I need to maybe add more sites to the content network. I am going to use adplanner and do more research. Maybe I need to raise the bids even higher?

Also to note: I stopped using Facebook not just because of click fraud but they emailed me saying I need to stop using ads that are against their terms. But I am going to try and do some legit ads.

I have other things I would like to test too but I figure I should take one thing at a time. So I will just try and take on content network with bizopps.
 
Day 2

Yesterday I had 33 clicks, cost of $26.30. I got 3 leads for $111. I had 10 people go to the offer and 3 conversions. My ctr is 0.06% on adwords. Not sure if that is good for content network. Can someone chime in and let me know if thats decent, if not what's a decent ctr for content network?

Today I have 23 clicks for a cost of $18.59 and one lead. So far I am profiting but I would like to do more volume. So my thoughts are to push my CPC from $1.00 to $1.50-$2.00.

Today to work on:
-Clickheat. I added it in but its not working for some reason.
-Add more sites from adplanner to get more volume
-Ask my AM to place pixels to place on the offer page for prosper.

I think thats it for now. I may do another update after I am done all this work.
 
Aside from everything else it seems like you are off to a good start but a little off topic. Don't waste your money on Full Sail. It is expensive and being someone who worked in the music industry for awhile before my businesses took off I just want to let you know that no one hires people from Full Sail. Most music industry jobs come from knowing people and connections plus the money in the music industry is not great and jobs are hard to come by. Best advice I could give would be make some money and teach yourself or even hire a mentor from a local studio to teach you. This will save you a good 50k.
 
i like this thread. keep it comin'. hopefully will help some other people starting out as well.

question: you doing content network via placement or via keyword? that might have something to do w/ your volume, just FYI.
 
jvincent said:
i like this thread. keep it comin'. hopefully will help some other people starting out as well.

question: you doing content network via placement or via keyword? that might have something to do w/ your volume, just FYI.
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Hmm, I'm so new to adwords its confusing. I always thought content network was only placing urls to put your ads on their sites. I guess I am doing via placement and not keyword. I thought if I add a keyword it would become a search term. Do I have this wrong?

bprimeelite said:
Aside from everything else it seems like you are off to a good start but a little off topic. Don't waste your money on Full Sail. It is expensive and being someone who worked in the music industry for awhile before my businesses took off I just want to let you know that no one hires people from Full Sail. Most music industry jobs come from knowing people and connections plus the money in the music industry is not great and jobs are hard to come by. Best advice I could give would be make some money and teach yourself or even hire a mentor from a local studio to teach you. This will save you a good 50k.
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Oh, thanks for the info. My one friend works at a studio and he says one of his interns went to full sail and he came back knowing so much. Not sure, maybe Ill save up money and get my own studio built and get someone to mentor me. We shall see if I am successfull with this challenge first.

Skeletor said:
Good god, I have gotten 30 clicks, for $30 spend and 0 sales....

I must be doing it wrong
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I probably just got lucky with ad copy and url placements.


Day 2 Update
-Got my pixels placed globally so now I don't have to ask my AM to place a pixel on specific campaigns.
-Don't know what im doing wrong with clickheat but its not working.
-I added a few more sites from adplanner.
-I raised bids to $1.75 but I am not getting anymore clicks. Maybe I got slapped? How do I know if I get slapped?

Today so far:
27 clicks and spent $22.08. Only one conversions for $37.00. I also noticed that the top 5 people don't have much revenue for the A4D competition so I can still win it.

I put some ads on facebook to catch up with the top 5 people in revenue. I don't really want to explore other traffic sources, but I might need to in order to win A4D competition. I would like to stick with one thing at a time though.

Thanks for all the help.
 
Day 3

I am a total idiot. I wasn't receiving any impressions or clicks because my account balance had $0.23 left in it. Yesterday I ended up with spending $22.08 and receiving one conversion. I just put in more money in adwords. Just wasted a whole day yesterday, lets see if I can do double the work today.

I also put an ad on facebook. I made 9 similar ads after getting the one approved. Usually they would just approve it because it was already approved. But now they disapproved them all which sucks. I forgot I had my daily budget at $1.00 so I got 4 clicks. I put it up to $200 and now I am getting no impressions at all. I guess ill try duping that or trying to sneak another ad in.
 
Day 3 Update

Well damn. Not such a great day today. In the beginning I had 0 conversions spending around $50. Got a conversion at $57. I had my CPC at around $1.75. The days before I had it at $1.00. Maybe I should go back?

Adwords spend: $88.00
Facebook spend: $70.00
Revenue: $74.00

I had credits in my facebook account, so it is a loss but I didn't know I had that money so i am just using that as testing. All conversions came from adwords anyway.

I had 51 clicks to the offer and only 2 conversions. 3.92% conversions rate. Blah.

Maybe I'm thinking to do another niche. I rather stick with A4D for the competition. My AM didn't place those pixels yet :( Ill have to contact him.
 
Are you using flogs or review style landers? On content network a casual untargeted surfer is likely to convert on a flog lander whereas a targeted (one who is reading MMO content) surfer likes to review the product he is about to buy. Getting the idea?
 
Oh I see. I am using the news type. Maybe I should try a flog out instead. But I also hear that google is going ban happy on people running google bizopp ads. I would think the news type would be good like a flog.
 
you seem to be off to a good start. I can give you some info on some offers that you could do well with. They are not on A4D though. Copeac and some others.
 
Day 4

Google suspended my ads on the content network. Oh well. I also noticed something on my LP that may explain why I am not getting leads. I accidentally uploaded my one index.html when that was the wrong one.

I think I am going to try MSN or maybe YSM or something because google suspended my ads. Frustrating but I must keep pushing. Maybe a different offer other then google bizopps?
 
ItsYoBuddy said:
Day 4

Google suspended my ads on the content network. Oh well. I also noticed something on my LP that may explain why I am not getting leads. I accidentally uploaded my one index.html when that was the wrong one.

I think I am going to try MSN or maybe YSM or something because google suspended my ads. Frustrating but I must keep pushing. Maybe a different offer other then google bizopps?
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There's another active thread on this forum of people getting their entire adwords/gmail accounts banned because of google bizopps on google, be careful.
 
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