2pac acoustic

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im not really into rap, but i love acoustic and my friend showed me this today. gave me a lot of respect for 2pac and nas. thought id share it here for anyone who hasnt heard it. great stuff-

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzuJY0F01mM]YouTube - Tupac Shakur featuring Nas - Thugz Mansion[/ame]
 
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Now, that's the stuff I grew up to...

Great rap doesn't exist anymore...there's probably a lot you wouldn't know about Pac if you wren't at least 16 in 1996. He was much more than a rapper or a thug...read his poems...you'll be surprised. Or check out "The Rose that Grew From Concrete".
 
BlackBeauty said:
Now, that's the stuff I grew up to...

Great rap doesn't exist anymore...there's probably a lot you wouldn't know about Pac if you wren't at least 16 in 1996. He was much more than a rapper or a thug...read his poems...you'll be surprised. Or check out "The Rose that Grew From Concrete".
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I was 3 in 96 rofl
 
2Pac = Most Overrated Rapper Ever

Anytime I hear someone start off a conversation about rap and the first thing they say is "2Pac and Biggie...(fill in the blank)" it immediately indicates they know fuck all about rap - they get their history of rap from a VH1 special. Not saying they sucked, but definitely overrated because they were both murdered and that shit added a mythology that wouldn't have existed otherwise.
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
2Pac = Most Overrated Rapper Ever

Anytime I hear someone start off a conversation about rap and the first thing they say is "2Pac and Biggie...(fill in the blank)" it immediately indicates they know fuck all about rap - they get their history of rap from a VH1 special. Not saying they sucked, but definitely overrated because they were both murdered and that shit added a mythology that wouldn't have existed otherwise.
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they are probably better then the shit we have to deal with today. like lil wayne absolutely sucks
 
Just to be clear, mainstream rap straight up doesn't exist anymore so theres no point in arguing if yesterdays rap was better or overhyped. They got rid of all things rap, r&b country, punk and rock in the late 90's.

They then took pop and expanded it into those genres by adding the lil gimmicks each genre has.

Look this pop singer is wearing a cowboy hat and mentions a farm, it's country. Check out this pop singer wearing skater clothes and mentions her dislike for authority figures, welcome to the new punk. If the pop singer sings about how much money they have then its rap. If the same singer with the same beat talks about getting laid then its R & B.

You can take any pop singer like justin timberlake and britney spears, throw a change of clothes on them and the subject matter of a song and you got yourself timbaland and taylor swift. Another change of clothes and a backup band and they got themselves nickelback and avril lavigne. Honestly the only genres that haven't been taken over by pop is classical music and fuckin speed metal.

point being:
IF ITS MAINSTREAM MUSIC THAN ITS POP MUSIC
 
I think music changes and also rap changes. To say rap is no more, I don't agree, its just different. If you ask me right now Eminem, Jay-Z, Kanye West an Lil Wayne are make al lot of good music. Different, but still good music. What would you think if someone would drop an album in the same stile as back in the 90's? That was and still is great but I don't know if it fits into the state of mind right now.
 
Deliguy said:
Just to be clear, mainstream rap straight up doesn't exist anymore so theres no point in arguing if yesterdays rap was better or overhyped. They got rid of all things rap, r&b country, punk and rock in the late 90's.

They then took pop and expanded it into those genres by adding the lil gimmicks each genre has.

Look this pop singer is wearing a cowboy hat and mentions a farm, it's country. Check out this pop singer wearing skater clothes and mentions her dislike for authority figures, welcome to the new punk. If the pop singer sings about how much money they have then its rap. If the same singer with the same beat talks about getting laid then its R & B.

You can take any pop singer like justin timberlake and britney spears, throw a change of clothes on them and the subject matter of a song and you got yourself timbaland and taylor swift. Another change of clothes and a backup band and they got themselves nickelback and avril lavigne. Honestly the only genres that haven't been taken over by pop is classical music and fuckin speed metal.

point being:
IF ITS MAINSTREAM MUSIC THAN ITS POP MUSIC
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Exactly.
 
krissur said:
I think music changes and also rap changes. To say rap is no more, I don't agree, its just different. If you ask me right now Eminem, Jay-Z, Kanye West an Lil Wayne are make al lot of good music. Different, but still good music. What would you think if someone would drop an album in the same stile as back in the 90's? That was and still is great but I don't know if it fits into the state of mind right now.
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whoah there not saying i disagree with your point but i definitely disagree with your examples.
Kanye is no dispute pop

eminem took singing lessons and completely changed his voice. A friend of mine a few weeks ago said something about how eminems voice and style hasn't changed since he started and ppl agreed. it blew my mind that people actually think that. His entire voice has changed he went from straight rap to melodic he also slowed it down and sped it up instead of keeping steady. I liked it but in his debute album shit he sounded like a chipmunk. Although he's still awesome and his subject matter hasn't changed (himself) he's gone pop if you compare his old with his new. Listen to his old stuff vs his new stuff and you'll see exactly what i mean
early example:
What about dre (fast forward to 1:14)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5a93wABHNM"]YouTube - Dr. Dre - Forgot About Dre ft. Eminem, Hittman[/ame]
recent example:
not afraid
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5-yKhDd64s"]YouTube - Eminem - Not Afraid[/ame]

Same exact thing as Jay-Z
lil wayne i have to agree with you on.
 
I almost don't care what genre a song fits with, as long as I can get into the groove of the song, and "feel it" so to speak, then I can careless about putting a category on to it.. except maybe for the category "music I like."
 
Deliguy said:
whoah there not saying i disagree with your point but i definitely disagree with your examples.
Kanye is no dispute pop

eminem took singing lessons and completely changed his voice. A friend of mine a few weeks ago said something about how eminems voice and style hasn't changed since he started and ppl agreed. it blew my mind that people actually think that. His entire voice has changed he went from straight rap to melodic he also slowed it down and sped it up instead of keeping steady. I liked it but in his debute album shit he sounded like a chipmunk. Although he's still awesome and his subject matter hasn't changed (himself) he's gone pop if you compare his old with his new. Listen to his old stuff vs his new stuff and you'll see exactly what i mean
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lol eminem lol, hes not rapper anymore. Hes more more like justin timberlake than anything else. It's made him richer by doing what hes doing now since hes appealing to a wider age range now with all the emo singing crap, but hes not a rapper anymore. Hes emonem now.
 
Unarmed Gunman said:
2Pac = Most Overrated Rapper Ever
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This

Tupac = Wack
Kanye West = Wack
50 Cent = Wack
Kid Cudi = Wack
Lupe Fiasco = Wack
Lil Wayne = Wack
Drake = Wack
Eminem = Wack

Anyone that disagrees with me obviously hasn't heard enough Hip Hop to comprehend.

Oh, I listen to:-

Demigodz
Army of the Pharaohs
La Coka Nostra
Soul Assassins
Necro
Wu Tang Clan
R.A the Rugged Man

& many more, too many dope rappers to list.
 
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