A Newbie's Guide to MySpace

Status
Not open for further replies.

yubrew

New member
Sep 27, 2008
80
4
0
This guide is meant to help newbies to get to profits faster, with less capital and time. Most of it's basic common sense, but I still get these questions all the time from new affiliates.

What offers are working on MySpace?
Well, I could tell you what's working right now at 9:10am PST on 12/13, but that could change a couple weeks from now, or even a couple hours from now. Make some profiles in different demographics, and see what other people are pushing. If you notice the same ads popping up over and over again for several days, do you think maybe they're working? or do you think all those affiliates are throwing their money away?

After you figure out what looks good, try finding a similar offer on one of your affiliate networks. In general, higher EPC = better offer. Check with your Affiliate Manager if you're still not sure.

Should I do a landing page, or direct link?
Depends on the offer. If it is a short 4 field submit, a direct link should work fine. With something where someone needs to pull out their credit card, you'll want to make an LP to work your 'sales magics' on them.

When creating your LP, you might want to take a look at what everyone else is doing, and model yours off them.

What creatives should I use?
Ones that make you profit. Because you are a n00b, conserve your capital. Look around at those same ads that pop up, and make similar ones. To save ads that look good, Right Click -> Save Image As, and now you have a quick starting point.

Why can't I get impressions?
First, check the campaign start date. MySpace's default start date is tomorrow. You need to change it to today to start seeing clicks.

I'm still not getting impressions...
Play around with the different variables. The most important initial variable seems to be bid price. Start your bid at something like $.50. Then wait for clicks and keep lowering it by .02 every couple hours until MySpace does not serve you any more impressions. That's when you've hit the bottom price for that one ad.

Also, you may want to start creating new campaigns and accounts. Instead of creating one campaign per day, maybe you should do more. But be careful, if you add new accounts too quickly, you'll get whacked with a banhammer.

MySpace stats show X but my network stats show Y. What's going on?
MySpace stats are not real time. They seem to be delayed by about an hour. Also, they seem to count all clicks. This is why you may see a difference between Tracking202 real clicks, and the MySpace billed clicks.

My campaign is not profitable. What am I doing wrong?
How many clicks are you going through before saying this? If the network conversion rate for acai is like 10%, and your ctr for the landing page is 10%, then only 1% of the people clicking on your ads will turn into leads. It might take you 300 clicks to determine anything statistically significant.

Ok, so now you have enough clicks to start getting a bit worried. Well, you're promoting an offer that works for other people. You have creatives similar to what's working for other people. And your landing page is similar too. Either you are bidding too high, hitting the wrong demographic, or your creative doesn't pull in the right type of traffic. This is where something like Tracking202 or Prosper202 really comes in handy. If you set them up properly, you can see which ad the conversions came from. Then only add new campaigns with the profitable ads in profitable demographics.

I have a profitable campaign, now what do I do?
Scale like a bitch. Then buy me a beer :)

MySpace has been very kind to me. I learned how to work MySpace by being persistant and getting help from WF folks. By no means am I crushing it like others, but I hold my own. I sincerely hope that some newbies take action and start their fortunes after reading this article. Ping me if you have more questions or need help with anything.
 
Last edited by a moderator:


Go yubrew! Good post dude. Although MySpace are slowly cracking down imo. I've been getting alot of shit disapproved recently. Good stuff. +rep (yeah, rep back :P)
 
They are disapproving certain shit.

That's why you got to think ahead of the game
and hit em with that freeze pop before everyone else does.

99% of marketers lack ingenuity and uniqueness.

I think the very first Acai promoter, grant promoter
can damn well agree with that;)
 
+rep

Good post, I've been kind of using this method for the past month and it works well, good tip on the bidding though - I could never figure out why I could never get impressions on some stuff.
 
+rep

thats how to do it.

myspace are definately cracking down atm in certain areas. celeb stuff especially and the the favourite excessive midriff
 
They are disapproving certain shit.

99% of marketers lack ingenuity and uniqueness.

Ingenuity and uniqueness require funds/time/knowledge to test out new things. Yes, they produce greater ROI than copycatting, but for a newbie, every dollar should be spent in the least risky, greatest return investment.
 
<The entire load of ignorant scummyness I'm quoting>

Wait wait, I'm sending all my data to a company that is going to give my niches to everybody else as well as tell them the strategies? You are a manager for Ads4Doe...sn'tKnowWtfThey'reDoing right?

I would HATE if my manager came on here and spewed anything related to my niches... Actually, I think I would freak a new tropical storm that will reign down upon that little CPA office.

Wonder why Larby and other MS'ers aren't reigning hellfire over Ads4Dough yet.

You guys are bleeding ignorance from every hole, and the most disappointing fact is that you guys just keep rinsing and repeating this "business model", even better than shamwow ever could.

Sigh.
 
I have no problems getting ads up, no matter the niche, but I can't get an impression... not a single one. 20 ads up, 40 - 50 cent bids... nothin. makes me sadface.
 
Actually, I agree with bluebobbo, that yubrew is clearly lacking balls and imagination. You have no idea how many people are copying my tricks and they don't even know it.
Do you submit to search engines as well?
 
Wait wait, I'm sending all my data to a company that is going to give my niches to everybody else as well as tell them the strategies? You are a manager for Ads4Doe...sn'tKnowWtfThey'reDoing right?

I would HATE if my manager came on here and spewed anything related to my niches... Actually, I think I would freak a new tropical storm that will reign down upon that little CPA office.

Wonder why Larby and other MS'ers aren't reigning hellfire over Ads4Dough yet.

You guys are bleeding ignorance from every hole, and the most disappointing fact is that you guys just keep rinsing and repeating this "business model", even better than shamwow ever could.

Sigh.


Sorry to hear about your disappointment Bluebobo. We never ever hand out information that we get from other people or other peoples landing pages. The only info I ever hand out to my affiliates is the information me or my in house team comes up with. A lot of the innovation you're seeing on MS is us. Most people are just trying to promote the same old diet stuff. When we come up with that good stuff we share that with our affiliates first and then the community later.

If you think I shouldn't help my affiliates or other affiliates in the space it probably doesn't make sense for us to do business together. I know you have an anger towards me for some reason and if you'd like to discuss your dislike for me I'm happy to chat about it any time.

When it comes to watching what other people are doing this happens all the time. We have scrapers for most platforms ( myspace, facebook, content network, search, etc ) to watch what's being promoted where. This is all part of the learning process. As yubrew titled this post a guide for newbies. Granted as you move along things are going to get easier and you'll start to come up with most of your own ideas but I'm sure you to this day are still inspired by what you see other people doing.

One of the things that makes our network different is we're testing stuff constantly on different platforms in house with our own money. Mostly things no one else has done much with. When we find something that works we often share that info with our affiliates. Much like Ruck posting about grants on his convert2media blog.

Again BlueBobo I know you are bitter against me and ads4dough for some reason. Please feel free to aim me or you know where to find me on IRC. I'd be happy to have a conversation with you.
 
One thing you can make sure you do if you're not getting impressions is set your budget to 25K for the ad and the end date a week from today. At the min. recommended bid you're almost guaranteed to get impressions. The downside to this is you can also lose money pretty quickly. One new ad I created today lost about $300 bucks from 1200 clicks to my lp and no sales.

Also, bluebobbo the only data you send to your networks should be #'s from prosper202, and what you tell them. I can't wait to see what other marketers have come up with when I check out my myspace adboard, although it looks like mostly 2 or 3 things at the moment.

I recently wrote a ruby script that goes through your account and automatically extends all your ads by 1 week if they are expired. If anyone is interested in it I can post it.
 

ctr = 0 because of no impressions.. 0 impressions. I'm seeing recommended bids of 30 - 65ish cents, yet not a single impression on 50 cent bids. Thew up a 70 cent bid now to see if I can lose some cash fast, but still nothin.
 
Here's something I've noticed since the first day I posted ads on myspace, and not even my rep has been able to help me with..

Say I post 50 campaigns, only half or less many times will actually show any activity. I'm constantly dealing with campaigns that just won't budge. Anyone know of a fix for this? Sure as shit would make life easier knowing all of my campaigns are alive and running rather than only a handful per campaign creation run.
 
Here's something I've noticed since the first day I posted ads on myspace, and not even my rep has been able to help me with..

Say I post 50 campaigns, only half or less many times will actually show any activity. I'm constantly dealing with campaigns that just won't budge. Anyone know of a fix for this? Sure as shit would make life easier knowing all of my campaigns are alive and running rather than only a handful per campaign creation run.
I have the exact same problem. Occasionally, pausing the campaign and re-starting it a few hours later fixes the problem, but more often than not it's just permanently stuck.

I tried creating a new account and had the same problem. I'd love to know a fix as well!
 
It has alot to do with the following size of ad, time your submits, bid price, and CTR hope that helps.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.