All things being equal... If an affiliate network has great advertisers/offers, wonderful account managers, etc... and this same affiliate network also implemented a perfect end to end software solution for affiliate marketers then do you believe that they would have increased potential to be a marketleader?
A Question for Affiliate Network Owners!
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All things being equal... If an affiliate network has great advertisers/offers, wonderful account managers, etc... and this same affiliate network also implemented a perfect end to end software solution for affiliate marketers then do you believe that they would have increased potential to be a marketleader?
I doubt it. It would be costly to implement something other than pixels which that added operating cost will be passed along in the form of lower payouts.
I am hoping that the owners and/or executives of Affiliate Networks are members of WickedFire and will share their thoughts with us all on this question.
Affiliate Networks assign each Affiliate Marketer on their network with a unique "Affiliate ID Number" upon registration. The "Affiliate ID Number" and "Sub ID" is used for analyzing that affiliate's traffic to an offer at the "front end" of the conversion process. Why don't Affiliate Networks also deliver the required code/programming to each of its Affiliate Marketers allowing for the "Affiliate ID Number" and any "Sub ID" to be pulled from the "Thank You" or "Confirmation Page" at the end of the conversion process? This type of functionality is easy to accomplish and will enable all Affiliate Marketers to better track every conversion to its conclusion. Affiliate Marketers can also track and pay any "Sub Affiliates" to help push our offers. It seems that the Affiliate Network that adopts this approach will create a rock solid trust with its Affiliate Marketer Members and differentiate itself from other less
progressive Affiliate Networks in an increasingly crowded marketplace.
Your thoughts?
PS. I am optimistic that this type of functionality will start to appear in subsequent revisions of Affiliate Network software.
how will cheater affiliate network will steal affiliate marketer,s traffic then?
Sam
how will cheater affiliate network will steal affiliate marketer,s traffic then?
Huh? is that a question? I have no idea what you are on about.
As for the other issues. This is NOT unique to CPA networks or offers. A 1x1 pixel/img is loaded on the thank you page. This img is actually a script which then reads the cookie. This is no different than other aff programs such as CJ or Linkshare or 99% of in house aff programs. The limitations are inherent in the system. Cookies aren't 100% accurate 100% of the time. And, as Krongel says, those limitations are compensated for in payouts.
lets dispell 2 myths right here.
1) That there is a 'Better' way of tracking this shit.
There isn't, ok their might be, but people much much smarter than you and I have been working hard on these issues for many years and this is the best solution anyone has been able to come up with.
If you can come up with something better, let me know, cause if it works, we're gonna be RICH! that is IF it works and we can get all the browser makers to comply...
Pixels and cookies are currently the most accurate and consistent way of tracking this shit. Sorry, it's a fact.
2) That advertisers and networks are 'stealing' my sales. Yawn... newbie aff's have been complaining about this since the dawn of the net and amazons 'associate' program back in 1997. Any network worth it's salt does its best to compensate for all of the factors and make sure everyone gets paid. That is why we use third party systems, as sucky as they may be, cause it takes the liability and trust out of the advertiser, network and affiliates hands and into that of a trusted third party.
No one is stealing your flippin leads. Any super affiliate will tell you that it all comes out in the wash when you are working with trusted companies.
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Dunno what campaign you have that converts at 30% and has a $10 payout... but i'd like to sign up! but that is likely why it has a $10 payout instead of $9If you drive 100,000 uniques via ppc to an offer with a payout of $10 bucks, get a 30% conversion rate and even 5% of those conversions cannot be accounted for then your leaving $15K on the table [I think my math is correct? 100k x .30 x .05 = $15,000.00 ].
This thread has been a contructive discussion on the current technology and methods available. I appreciate the insight and thoughts shared from all who participated. Thank you! I think you will all agree that we have beat this horse to death.
As for BIGSAMINDIA's post above: Nobody is stealing your freakin' leads [flippin is good too]. Good companies don't do that kind of crap and stay in business for long.
Yes. I believe that there are some ways to create an end to end solution that is better, but that would take time and money and while we are all locked in a room creating that think of all the payouts we would be missing!
Rock on dudes...
As for BIGSAMINDIA's post above: Nobody is stealing your freakin' leads [flippin is good too]. Good companies don't do that kind of crap and stay in business for long.
Yes. I believe that there are some ways to create an end to end solution that is better, but that would take time and money and while we are all locked in a room creating that think of all the payouts we would be missing!
Rock on dudes...
I started this thread awhile ago trying to see if anyone knew of a tracking software that affiliate marketers could use to track sales all the way through to completion on any affiliate networks even on websites that we do not control. If you are like me then I know we all have this on our wishlists as the pixel on the "thankyou" page of the affiliate network is not a trackable event by us. Instead, we rely on each affiliate network to report the conversions. Well folks, one of my friends turned me on to a software solution called clickalyzer that says it can do remote tracking all the way through to the end of the process and it can do this on any website even ones you do not control. I am currently checking it out on the free trial. Here is my affiliate link: Clickalyzer Web Statistics Online Tracking Visitor Tracking Ad Tracking Online Internet Marketing for you to go check it out. The guys website looks crappy, but check out the demo and you will get a good idea of what it can do... Do me a favor and signup under my link so I can buy some new shoes or whatever...
Has anyone else tried this software and used it for awhile? I am curious to get your opinions. I will post my experience with the software after I have used it for a few months.
Has anyone else tried this software and used it for awhile? I am curious to get your opinions. I will post my experience with the software after I have used it for a few months.
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