Aaron Swartz ( Cofounder of Reddit) commits suicide
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Not true at all. Have you ever been directly involved in a federal level criminal investigation? Are you a lawyer?
No need to know who knows what and why.
In most cases by the time the Feds are in the open, you have been under investigation for some time. The rule of thumb is that they do not ask you questions when they do not already know the answers.
Federal prosecution is a stressful affair.
They don't like to bring cases to trial unless they stand a really good chance of winning.
When you see the evidence they've gathered to use against you for the first time, you'll shit in your pants.
From what I understand.
Indeed. They don't like to bring cases to trial unless they stand a good chance of winning.
But I was talking about the pre indictment criminal investigation phase.
The thing is with the Feds is they all the money in the world. They will watch you commit crime after crime after crime and when they have your ass nailed to the wall, then they go after you.
Most federal lawyers will tell you, when they come knockin' you're usually guilty.
I'm going to have to agree that in most cases, once the presence of the feds is known the chances of an indictment is high.
But there are exceptions. I already discussed it with a few guys here via PMs already.
Without a doubt Swartz knew about the investigation against him well before the indictment. I am sure that caused a lot of mental anguish for him.
But there are exceptions. I already discussed it with a few guys here via PMs already.
Without a doubt Swartz knew about the investigation against him well before the indictment. I am sure that caused a lot of mental anguish for him.
For you Westboro "fans"...
How Anonymous Got Westboro to Back Off Aaron Swartz's Funeral - National - The Atlantic Wire
How Anonymous Got Westboro to Back Off Aaron Swartz's Funeral - National - The Atlantic Wire
Sadly, Aaron is gone, and nothing can bring him back. There was a deal on the table, offering to keep the sentence at approximately six weeks, in exchange for a guilty plea, which is all irrelevant now.
He dared members of the system at a time when they are trying to make examples of people who are committing internet crime...like the Attorney General's office said, "stealing is stealing, whether you use a computer key or a crowbar". People are too arrogant, to understand that they are eventually going to get caught. We have so many years ahead of us. NOTHING is worth risking being caught in the system, a system that is corrupt and composed of people who worry more about getting a conviction, just so they can be promoted, than what the conviction, at times, unnecessary, will do to that person, but in reality, it is time people start taking responsibility and understanding that actions carry consequences, they can be good, or they can be bad. Internet crime is still crime. Think for a second, of how it might feel to come home to find all your belongings have been taken. You don't know by whom, what they will be used for. Just writing about it makes me ache for the person whose privacy is, not only robbed, but violated. Just imagine, just imagine you leave for work, and when you come home, your place is completely empty. It's impossible to imagine, until it happens to you. The feeling is indescribable!!!
What would you do to an intruder if he/she were inside your home when you arrive from work, and all your belongings have disappeared?
Illegal hacking is no different. Hackers brake into a company server, then invade your Inbox, your Sent Folder, and if having access to that were not enough, they steal the data completely, so when you open your computer, the only message in your Inbox is "your inbox is empty".
What should you do if you know the person who illegally hacked your computer, or your email account? Not reporting them is sending them a message that it is alright to behave criminally. It is sending them a message that it is perfectly fine for them to continue to commit crimes (illegal hacking, stealing identities, deleting people's screen names and their contact lists. These are all crimes punishable by law. It make take time to get caught, but once a name is in the system, prosecutors won't rest until they have made an example of them, hoping to discourage others. Why risk doing things that we plainly know are wrong? Why risk getting caught and sentenced to even one day in jail? Over what? Money, ego, power trips, owning the industry, taking pride in destroying partner networks?
What do you guys think?
He dared members of the system at a time when they are trying to make examples of people who are committing internet crime...like the Attorney General's office said, "stealing is stealing, whether you use a computer key or a crowbar". People are too arrogant, to understand that they are eventually going to get caught. We have so many years ahead of us. NOTHING is worth risking being caught in the system, a system that is corrupt and composed of people who worry more about getting a conviction, just so they can be promoted, than what the conviction, at times, unnecessary, will do to that person, but in reality, it is time people start taking responsibility and understanding that actions carry consequences, they can be good, or they can be bad. Internet crime is still crime. Think for a second, of how it might feel to come home to find all your belongings have been taken. You don't know by whom, what they will be used for. Just writing about it makes me ache for the person whose privacy is, not only robbed, but violated. Just imagine, just imagine you leave for work, and when you come home, your place is completely empty. It's impossible to imagine, until it happens to you. The feeling is indescribable!!!
What would you do to an intruder if he/she were inside your home when you arrive from work, and all your belongings have disappeared?
Illegal hacking is no different. Hackers brake into a company server, then invade your Inbox, your Sent Folder, and if having access to that were not enough, they steal the data completely, so when you open your computer, the only message in your Inbox is "your inbox is empty".
What should you do if you know the person who illegally hacked your computer, or your email account? Not reporting them is sending them a message that it is alright to behave criminally. It is sending them a message that it is perfectly fine for them to continue to commit crimes (illegal hacking, stealing identities, deleting people's screen names and their contact lists. These are all crimes punishable by law. It make take time to get caught, but once a name is in the system, prosecutors won't rest until they have made an example of them, hoping to discourage others. Why risk doing things that we plainly know are wrong? Why risk getting caught and sentenced to even one day in jail? Over what? Money, ego, power trips, owning the industry, taking pride in destroying partner networks?
What do you guys think?
I think that's a strong first post, and you should quit while you are ahead.
You did now. Torches are lit, knives are out. Making fun of our moderator's name is no joke, heads should roll.
He actually kind of has a point... though. Albeit delivered in a profound cocophony of retardedness, such unlike what the world has ever seen.
@ Zsaleem How so? I offer my sincerest apologies. I assure you I am merely expressing concern that maybe we are not speaking out enough to protect our friends from such fates as Aaron. I assure you I meant no offense whatsoever.
@IceToEskimos - Thank you for your kindness, understanding and straightforwardness. I would appreciate knowing if I ever cross a line I should not.
@IceToEskimos - Thank you for your kindness, understanding and straightforwardness. I would appreciate knowing if I ever cross a line I should not.
He's not saying he's offended, he's saying it was such a good first post that you'll have trouble matching it in any further posts
(as I understand it)