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While your intentions are good, the end results are bad. In order to pay the CPA rate on the campaign, the merchant depends on people continuing on through the signup path beyond entering their e-mail address. That won't be possible if they've only got a small iframed window to do it in.
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Shouldn't be an issue if I target _blank the submit button. The second page of the signup path will open in a new tab/window. I think I can actually target the parent frame and just have it open in the same page even (not 100% sure about that.)

Additionally, most merchants have to put tons of disclaimers and legalese on their landing page in order to avoid getting in trouble with the FTC. They don't look too kindly on people who frame that out for the convenience of a cleaner landing page.
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Hmm, yes I can see that being an issue. I could copy that over as well.

I can see there are issues with it, but at the end of the day the most important thing is still conversions - If I'm bringing in conversions for the merchant, there's usually a lot of leeway to work with. We both want to make money.
 


Derek Pankaew said:
Shouldn't be an issue if I target _blank the submit button. The second page of the signup path will open in a new tab/window. I think I can actually target the parent frame and just have it open in the same page even (not 100% sure about that.)



Hmm, yes I can see that being an issue. I could copy that over as well.

I can see there are issues with it, but at the end of the day the most important thing is still conversions - If I'm bringing in conversions for the merchant, there's usually a lot of leeway to work with. We both want to make money.
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You just don't get it do you? Email submit advertisers aren't idiots, they don't just throw up a random page on a network to see if it converts or not. Everything they do has already been split tested to give them the maximum amount of conversions AND followups. If the advertiser wanted to he could easily claim that everybody who submits their email will get a lifetime of free diapers from big name brands, free shipping, a free years worth of nanny services, and a new car and the conversions would be insane.

Except for when they reach the next page and see that they're only getting 1 box of diapers and have to pay $2 in shipping, suddenly the offer doesn't look so good and they don't get any conversions which means they end up losing money. Find another way to make your lunch money because no network is going to let you iframe an email submit despite what backwards logic you try and use.
 
you can use javascript to set the scrollers position, and then make it unscrollable.. don't have example code but it's been done ;)
 
Going out of your way to design your own LP is a waste of time. Ayzo hit the nail on the head. You need to either accept the LP for an offer, or move on to something else. If you're going to go through all the work of designing an entirely new LP you might as well put on your Advertiser hat and go that route.
 
You can automate this whole process by buying a tool called GODCPA over at BHW. Its costs about $300 and is for exactly this purpose.
 
Which major networks allow this sort of thing, actually condone it? And in the realm of "trustworthy" (for a network that would allow this sort of thing), is their reputation on payment solid as well?
 
Roundabout said:
Which major networks allow this sort of thing, actually condone it? And in the realm of "trustworthy" (for a network that would allow this sort of thing), is their reputation on payment solid as well?
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There are no networks that have direct relationships with their merchants that will allow this sort of thing. GodCPA is used primarily to fuck over merchants by changing the intent of their e-mail submit. There are no merchants who would approve of their campaigns being used this way and would quickly let the network know that once discovered.

Bottom tier networks that are built solely on rebrokering offers from other networks might get away with it longer because of the added layer(s) between them and the end merchant. But, who knows if you'll get paid as these types of networks seem to come and go on a weekly basis.
 
LOL! I love how affiliate managers/network owners start to freak out when someone brings up a blackhat discussion...
 
mailinatorm2 said:
LOL! I love how affiliate managers/network owners start to freak out when someone brings up a blackhat discussion...
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We freak out because we have a pretty clear line between blackhat and fraud.
Blackhat, we'll turn the other way, whether we admit or not. Fraud fucks with our business though, and we don't like people fucking with our business, because it destroys long term viability, even if it's short term profitable.
 
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