American Muslim Children Taught to Hate

It's funny how white Christian folks think it's ok to export their culture at the barrel of a gun, but when someone shows up in their country with different ideas, it's suddenly a 1400 year old invasion by radicals.

This reminds me of a conversation I once had. Was waiting for my new laptop to get setup, so went for a beer. Chatting with this one guy, and conversation turns to the Mormons who frequent the markets here offering "free English lessons".

I voice my distaste, and this guy actually has the gall to say, "well, they're just doing their job". I was stunned, and didn't even know how to reply without coming off as an asshole. Yeah, travel half way across the world to a predominantly Buddhist country, start shoving God down everyone's throats, and they're "just doing their job".

Almost guaranteed if I would have brought up Islam during that conversation, he would have remarked something like, "ohhh, that's a very violent and radical religion. we really need tighter immigration controls at home to keep those people out".
 


This reminds me of a conversation I once had. Was waiting for my new laptop to get setup, so went for a beer. Chatting with this one guy, and conversation turns to the Mormons who frequent the markets here offering "free English lessons".

I voice my distaste, and this guy actually has the gall to say, "well, they're just doing their job". I was stunned, and didn't even know how to reply without coming off as an asshole. Yeah, travel half way across the world to a predominantly Buddhist country, start shoving God down everyone's throats, and they're "just doing their job".

Almost guaranteed if I would have brought up Islam during that conversation, he would have remarked something like, "ohhh, that's a very violent and radical religion. we really need tighter immigration controls at home to keep those people out".

youve just made his exact same point but needed like 10 times the words? the implication that youre living in thailand is not a brag either
 
At first you were like:

The sad thing is, you don't see how your collectivist painting of millions of people you have never met with a single brush makes you sound crazy and detached.

But then you were like:

It's funny how white Christian folks think it's ok to export their culture at the barrel of a gun...

umwut?

Or are you subtly letting us all know that you see yourself as "crazy and detached"?
 
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theyre called extremists. theyre the far ends on the bell curve. a tiny minority. some idiots will always cast stones. drop bombs.

they recruit like 30 morons a year for their cause. you act like they can just install sharia or whatever the fuck law in western countries. all legal structure is based pretty much entirely on the teachings of kant and his school of philosophy. you cant just change that. like the very foundations of all law. the congress wont vote on it, the supreme court would shoot it down, police forces wouldnt act on it.

especially in europe where theres this power vacuum limbo state where somehow european legislation supercedes all other legislation but not really because it takes a lot of time to appeal even the most minor bullshit. really cute.

so to reiterate: they would first have to acquire a two third majority in the parliaments to even be able to change constituion, then have the entire supreme court on their side to get it through on that end. and youre talking about england. theyve got this house of lords thing which basically consists of blue blood and old money. if any of that ever happens, they pretty much already are a muslim state. installing some sharia will be an afterthought.

there will always be extremists. maybe theyll detonate a nail bomb or two a decade. big deal.

maybe it would help if you looked in the mirror some day and realized how similar you are to them.
 
theyre called extremists. theyre the far ends on the bell curve. a tiny minority. some idiots will always cast stones. drop bombs.

they recruit like 30 morons a year for their cause. you act like they can just install sharia or whatever the fuck law in western countries. all legal structure is based pretty much entirely on the teachings of kant and his school of philosophy. you cant just change that. like the very foundations of all law. the congress wont vote on it, the supreme court would shoot it down, police forces wouldnt act on it.

especially in europe where theres this power vacuum limbo state where somehow european legislation supercedes all other legislation but not really because it takes a lot of time to appeal even the most minor bullshit. really cute.

so to reiterate: they would first have to acquire a two third majority in the parliaments to even be able to change constituion, then have the entire supreme court on their side to get it through on that end. and youre talking about england. theyve got this house of lords thing which basically consists of blue blood and old money. if any of that ever happens, they pretty much already are a muslim state. installing some sharia will be an afterthought.

there will always be extremists. maybe theyll detonate a nail bomb or two a decade. big deal.

maybe it would help if you looked in the mirror some day and realized how similar you are to them.

If you're form England or the UK you're being highly selective in your description of the situation. If you're not, please educate yourself on the no-go Muslim districts of say Luton, Sheffield, London, Bradford and Burnley, as this will reveal to you how your point is moot.
 
The sad thing is, you don't see how your collectivist painting of millions of people you have never met with a single brush makes you sound crazy and detached.

You talk a good talk G, but you're out of touch with the situation in Europe. You're also not seeing the growing civil unrest that is actually happening on the ground in British and Italian cities.

You also don't realize, that most people don't give a shit, because what you perceive to be happening isn't what they perceive to be happening, and that maybe your view, is actually the minority view.

It's irrelevant to me how many give or don't give a shit. I'm not trying to change anyone's opinion, though I enjoy debating this topic - it sharpens my thinking and ideas. Furthermore if people want to be a muslim, that's up to them, if that worldview serves them at this point in there lives. It's when the angry few, aided by the so-called moderate majority make headway into the politics, force societal changes (they have, so don't start arguing against that), dominate and colonize city districts by driving-out people who aren't muslim. This isn't Daily Mail bullshit either.

In any case, this part of the website is called shooting the shit, where anything goes, so I shoot my shit.




It's funny how white Christian folks think it's ok to export their culture at the barrel of a gun, but when someone shows up in their country with different ideas, it's suddenly a 1400 year old invasion by radicals. Let's overlook all of the people that whites conquered, raped and molested, whose land was confiscated, whose people were enslaved, and let's not forget white people burning their women at the stake only a few hundred years ago.

Moot. I am against what the church did in history. And let's not forget that muslims are doing today pretty much all the barbaric shit the church was doing in the Dark Ages and after. As for the wars - the people didn't launch those wars, it was governments and international capital. Ordinary people marched against those wars. So no, there is no justification for muslims fucking with European countries.


When I wrote about confirmation bias, you're so committed to your point of view, there is no information which could change your mind. Everything you read, including that joke of a website, is meant to feed and reinforce the opinion you already had. You're not even aware of some sort of objectivity because it feels amazing to keep reading about stuff that reinforces how you already feel.

This is your point of view - actually it's not even a point of view - you're asserting that without having any idea of my back-story. You don't know about the research I'm involved with or how we have on-hand a stats guy to review our findings, who we chose because he does not have any vested opinion in this issue.

I think you are the one with confirmation bias. You chilled with muslims in the past and now think the sun shines out of assholes of every muslim. You're projecting onto me the very weakness you have and writing about 'white Christian folks' in a collectivist way proves it.

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but please don't disrespect mine when frankly you haven't got a clue what you're talking about. I can make that assertion with confidence because you don't live in Europe and you have no idea what is happening.
 
Look at everybody trying to show off as superior to the other guy. Pulling theories and figures from somewhere, substituting basic words in your sentences with unheard of words pulled from a thesaurus and all that. Introduce a good amount of alcohol and guns, I would bet there'd be a massive shooting on this thread :p That's human nature which is the actual problem

The solution I personally believe in is that there's no system or setup that can solve human (and the planet's) problems. The only solution is less humans.

inb4 go kill urself
 
I think you are the one with confirmation bias. You chilled with muslims in the past and now think the sun shines out of assholes of every muslim.
I have also chilled with Christians and Jews. And have a problem with neither.

I don't think Muslims are special. That's what being up close to people teaches you. People are people everywhere in the world.

Have you been in a mosque? Have you visited Islamic friends during Ramadan? Do you have any close relationships with anyone Muslim?

Your collectivism is the same sort of shit that kicked off German exceptional-ism and a pogrom against the Jews in WWII. You're so filled with hate, you can't even see that's what you've become.

The good thing is, the average bloke doesn't see things that way. He's too busy trying to live his life and have a good time to worry about preserving a culture that he never had any ownership of in the first place.
 
Golden Rule brahs. Everyone, every religion has its own share of mistakes. New Religion = a Cult, even before. But if that cult survives for a long periods of time then it will be a religion. In which case Religion = Control over the masses. All religion even the sadistic ones has one common Ground, the Golden Rule. If you want to die, kill. If you want to live, let live, do unto others right?

Whatever those muslims are doing in the UK, US etc like occupying, recruiting and whatever, then what do you think our beloved Country is doing in the Muslim Countries in the middle east?.. answer? Occupying, as simple as that.
 
Around 40% of my coworkers are Muslim.

I agree with Wez, they are complete savages. Indoctrinated since birth with an insatiable thirst for white, Christian blood.

I reluctantly gave my number to this one Muslim savage coworker after we flirted for like 30 minutes the other day. She wants do to molly (MDMA) with me next week. She's actually kind of cute (100% African). But an utter radical. Yuck.

As for my male Muslim coworkers, they're equally radical in their egregious agenda to over-throw our government and enact Sharia Law within the US.

At least, that's the impression I got after being uncomfortably trapped in conversations about hip-hop, entrepreneurship, family, and the value of self-improvement with several of these savages.

Disgusting. Simply disgusting.

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Around 40% of my coworkers are Muslim.

I agree with Wez, they are complete savages. Indoctrinated since birth with an insatiable thirst for white, Christian blood.

I reluctantly gave my number to this one Muslim savage coworker after we flirted for like 30 minutes the other day. She wants do to molly (MDMA) with me next week. She's actually kind of cute (100% African). But an utter radical. Yuck.

As for my male Muslim coworkers, they're equally radical in their egregious agenda to over-throw our government and enact Sharia Law within the US.

At least, that's the impression I got after being uncomfortably trapped in conversations about hip-hop, entrepreneurship, family, and the value of self-improvement with several of these savages.

Disgusting. Simply disgusting.

Lmao what the fuck
 
I have also chilled with Christians and Jews. And have a problem with neither.

I don't think Muslims are special. That's what being up close to people teaches you. People are people everywhere in the world.

Have you been in a mosque? Have you visited Islamic friends during Ramadan? Do you have any close relationships with anyone Muslim?

Again you're jumping to conclusions - Of course I've been in mosques ... five different mosques. Of course I know muslims. I spent time in Istanbul. I dated a Turkish muslim woman and spent time with her in her textile business, I met her muslim friends - I was there for a couple of months. I've worked with muslims. This is not the issue though. You've missed it completely.


Your collectivism is the same sort of shit that kicked off German exceptional-ism and a pogrom against the Jews in WWII. You're so filled with hate, you can't even see that's what you've become.

WTF ! lol. The only nazi around here is you my friend, you stamp on any opinion that you don't agree with, and speak about things of which you are ignorant.

Filled with hate am I? What are you? CEO of Character assassinations R Us ?


The good thing is, the average bloke doesn't see things that way. He's too busy trying to live his life and have a good time to worry about preserving a culture that he never had any ownership of in the first place.

And here you prove yourself to be ignorant on this issue. If you have the time or the inclination, do some research on this specific point.

You should think before you react.
 
Im just gonna leave this here. There are other parts of the debate, do check them all.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy9tNyp03M0]Mehdi Hasan | Islam Is A Peaceful Religion | Oxford Union - YouTube[/ame]