I don't personally see what your beef with G is in this case: he asked someone to define morals, something that cannot be defined, simply because not many people have identical moral ideals.
I didn't ask him to define morals, I believe he did that with me. He said there was a social contract and there exist moral obligations.
When I pressed him to explain these, he could not. Then we took it to PM, where he admitted to me his philosophy is based on what he wants it to be, he rejects any portion of reality which does not lead to an outcome he finds acceptable.
The conversation ended because he's not interested in rational thought, ironically, after calling out the Anarchists who participated in this thread to act rationally rather than emotionally.
You gotta love humans.
The more I learn, read and think the more I start to realize that most of the things that people are afraid of what would Anarchy enable, are actually happening right now.
Mass murder (including women and children)? Mob rule? Selected few who control rest of the people/system? Questionable global business actions? Mass pollution? Aggression, violence and deception?
Well, a good fucking morning to you too, this is happening right now, in your own backyard. Yet people state that Anarchy will enable all above mentioned things... wake up.
Yes. I mean, I understand these guys who live in western countries, they have no frame of reference for what it is like to be bombed or put under economic sanctions to where the basic necessities of life are hard to come by, and innocent people die around you.
To them, they won the life lottery and got born into a pseudo-civil society they didn't have to understand, construct or defend. It's simply not possible for them to perceive the world being any different than their narrow experience.
Is the highway going trough an desert adding value (and in demand)? If yes, then the free market will take care of this. If not, then again, free market will take care of this.
This was basically what turned me into an anarchist. I worried about who would make roads and whatnot, then one day it occurred to me, the same way that there is sushi at the supermarket. Someone wanted it and would pay for it, so people made it.
As (supposed) entrepreneurs around here, you would think this sort of thinking would come naturally. But then if you look at the guys who argue for statism, more often than not, they are not IMers, but wage employees who dabble on the side.
I'm 2/3 through this book. Anyone with interest in knowledge and ideas should read it.
It really helped sharpen my perspective on many things. What we see, is it real or is everyone participating in a mass delusion?
I believe it's the latter.
I'm currently reconsidering my ideas on the rule of law. For example, one of the implications of my current(/previous?) political system is that events are treated differently dependent upon who is performing the act. But this is inconsistent with the factual nature of reality. A robbery is a robbery, and that's it. If I think robbery is wrong, I must think it's wrong independent from who the robber is. A "law" doesn't alter the underlying facts.
And that is the essential truth many people struggle to embrace.
Everyone, or nearly everyone in this discussion wants peace and prosperity. But some people allow/endorse/encourage others to do the very things which undermine peace and prosperity, because they perceive them to have some sort of legitimacy.
When I question people to explain the legitimacy that makes murder or theft ok when done by someone "official", the conversation usually shuts down. There is no good explanation or answer beyond blind obedience (because that's how it is, love it or leave it, it's always been like that, because humans need to be lead etc.).
People say they want liberty. They say they want peace. They say they want prosperity. A liberal, tolerant society. But then they act politically in complete contradiction to that.
When (if?) that contradiction resolves, I think humanity will soar. A second Enlightenment. We'll be wealthy and happy beyond our wildest dreams.
