And You Call Bush Dumb?

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YouTube - Barney Frank: Plenty of rich people that we can tax

Bush is a fuckin genuis compared to Barney Frank. Our economy is about to disolve into a depression and he is stating that we need to spend more money! It's ok though because he also says there is some rich people that we can tax to pay for all this shit.

You Democrats need to kick this Elmer Fudd speaking idiot outa your party.
 


You're annoying as fuck and I barely even surf WF.

Create 1 thread for yourself and just called it "Popeye's Political Thread" or something where you can make your 100 threads all in 1.

Bush is a tard BTW.
 
You're annoying as fuck and I barely even surf WF.

Create 1 thread for yourself and just called it "Popeye's Political Thread" or something where you can make your 100 threads all in 1.

Bush is a tard BTW.

I've seen your blog and you call me annoying
 
To keep an economy healthy it's indeed money that needs to be spend by consumers, if no money is being spend by consumers there is no economy.
 
Hehe, fear not Paul. The election will be over in a month and these threads won't be popping up every day. He's just trying to educate sheep.

.... as for the uber blog, I don't see an end in sight.
He's not trying to educate sheep. He's being obnoxious and starting flame wars and he knows it.
The people that agree with him do.
Most others(that I know) don't even respect his opinion. I love political debates more than most, but even I'm getting tired seeing his threads constantly popping up.

Anyone posting this much random political shit as this with a lower postcount than popeye would most likely get branded as a troll, regardless of which side of the political spectrum they're on.
 
Hmmm, not sure I totally agree that these threads are not for educational purpose. There is a difference between a sheep and someone who has faced the facts and made a decision to still vote for Obama.

I'm sure (well I hope) popeye doesn't have a problem with informed voters selecting someone different than his choice. It's the uninformed fringe voters that, quite possibly, don't know anything about this guy except that he's 1/2 black and not in George Bush's party. It's in the country's best interest to know as much as possible about all candidates (so they can proudly vote 3rd party).

As for the rest of my comment ... this will mostly go away soon. Perhaps when it does we can get more than 1 post a month over here. Yea, I know, it's whining like this that keeps erect from being a blogger. Believe it or not, I'm still waiting for SEOempire II ... perhaps I should just give up on that one.

He's not trying to educate sheep. He's being obnoxious and starting flame wars and he knows it.
The people that agree with him do.
Most others(that I know) don't even respect his opinion. I love political debates more than most, but even I'm getting tired seeing his threads constantly popping up.

Anyone posting this much random political shit as this with a lower postcount than popeye would most likely get branded as a troll, regardless of which side of the political spectrum they're on.
 
He's not trying to educate sheep. He's being obnoxious and starting flame wars and he knows it.
The people that agree with him do.
Most others(that I know) don't even respect his opinion. I love political debates more than most, but even I'm getting tired seeing his threads constantly popping up.

Anyone posting this much random political shit as this with a lower postcount than popeye would most likely get branded as a troll, regardless of which side of the political spectrum they're on.

I woundn't consider posting links to instances of Liberal ignorance to be trolling (I am sure I have a few post that could be considered trolling) Of course this would depend on if you are a Liberal or not. Don't worry! This wolf won't stir the flock anymore. I will resort to tit post and questions on why my mortgage site isn't number one on Google.
 
Hmmm, not sure I totally agree that these threads are not for educational purpose. There is a difference between a sheep and someone who has faced the facts and made a decision to still vote for Obama.

I'm sure (well I hope) popeye doesn't have a problem with informed voters selecting someone different than his choice. It's the uninformed fringe voters that, quite possibly, don't know anything about this guy except that he's 1/2 black and not in George Bush's party. It's in the country's best interest to know as much as possible about all candidates (so they can proudly vote 3rd party).

As for the rest of my comment ... this will mostly go away soon. Perhaps when it does we can get more than 1 post a month over here. Yea, I know, it's whining like this that keeps erect from being a blogger. Believe it or not, I'm still waiting for SEOempire II ... perhaps I should just give up on that one.

You are correct! If you are informed and still vote for Obama, sure it makes me cringe but I do respect your choice. I am hoping that a post that I may make will cause some uninformed voters to actually look the shit up themselves and make a informed choice instead of pressing the Obama button just because it's the IN thing to do.
 
I woundn't consider posting links to instances of Liberal ignorance to be trolling (I am sure I have a few post that could be considered trolling) Of course this would depend on if you are a Liberal or not. Don't worry! This wolf won't stir the flock anymore. I will resort to tit post and questions on why my mortgage site isn't number one on Google.
Popeye. Your posts are thick with inflamatory language(which IS allowed on wickedfire, but is NOT useful/effective if you're honestly trying to "inform".)
And even if you were trolling, informing, issuing propaganda, or even posting pictures of your fucking dog I wouldn't care as long as you kept it in moderation and kept it interesting/original.

The threads are nearly identical. Here is my Xrumer macro for you to make life easier, and may even be less redundant than the real posts.

How can {media|obamabots|libs|Nancy Pelosi|people|you retards} {think|believe} that {obama|the liberals|libs|Nancy Pelosi| commie infiltrators}'s {bill|idea|plan} on {flamewar topic#1|flamewar topic#2|flamewar topic#3} is {even possible|not retarded|going to work|wont crash the economy|not pandering to the darkies and a-rabs}

How do you guys like how {shitty|crappy|terrible} Obama did at that {election|debate|speech}? {Insert vague pointless insult at libs or obama here}

Look. Find something groundbreaking, or at least obviously relevant to what you say it is, or even something that's interesting and not an argument that been literally pulverized (generally by by godwin's law) on every forum on the planet.
If you find something that fits that criteria, I don't even give a fuck if it's from a ridiculously biased/non-reliable source (come on, you know the drudge report is the conservative equivalent of moveon.org bias wise).

I'd just be glad that it was interesting and not just another tired old generic, generally misleading, or needlessly inflamatory titled post that leads to yet another dead end.

For fucks sake popeye. I'm not going to restrict your free speech or anything like that. I'm saying this as a user, not a moderator. But can you not at least maintain some level of quality?

You don't see the forum libs firing up their new threads any time someone from moveon.org or Michael Moore takes a shit, do you?
And if there were, I'd be just as annoyed with them as I am at you.
 
You are correct! If you are informed and still vote for Obama, sure it makes me cringe but I do respect your choice. I am hoping that a post that I may make will cause some uninformed voters to actually look the shit up themselves and make a informed choice instead of pressing the Obama button just because it's the IN thing to do.

I think the problem is most people here are informed.

If you were trying to get the sheeple to think before they vote then that would be fine, but peeps here generally aren't dumb sheep. They have looked at the situation and I bet most see it as choosing the lesser of two evils, not blindly following the flock.

Constructive debate and argument is great, but - a bit like elements of McCain's campaign - continued personal attacks only make people less receptive to your point of view.
 
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Hmmm, not sure I totally agree that these threads are not for educational purpose. There is a difference between a sheep and someone who has faced the facts and made a decision to still vote for Obama.

I'm sure (well I hope) popeye doesn't have a problem with informed voters selecting someone different than his choice. It's the uninformed fringe voters that, quite possibly, don't know anything about this guy except that he's 1/2 black and not in George Bush's party. It's in the country's best interest to know as much as possible about all candidates (so they can proudly vote 3rd party).

As for the rest of my comment ... this will mostly go away soon. Perhaps when it does we can get more than 1 post a month over here. Yea, I know, it's whining like this that keeps erect from being a blogger. Believe it or not, I'm still waiting for SEOempire II ... perhaps I should just give up on that one.

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You seem like you are working with less intellectual ineptitude than Popeye who's clearly irrational, illogical and a lost cause. It's a proven fact that when the right side of the the brain gets a-working (the emotive part), it over-rides one's ability to think logically via the left/rational brain (thus the foaming-at-the-mouth rants about Liberals. Do you know what the irony is? In many parts of the world the word "Liberal" describes conservatives, lmao).

That said, why don't you engage in reading something other than what you want to hear? Let's talk about socialism for instance + higher taxes and larger government. Have you actually visited a democratic socialist country or are you basing your opinion on something you were TOLD?

Have you ever heard the expression "can't smell your own shit"? Try really, really hard to gather facts and draw conclusions based on facts not your emotions. That means gathering evidence from a variety of sources and managing your emotions so that you can draw a conclusion based on the facts vs. based on what you want to believe....

As an example, I posed a very logical question (http://www.wickedfire.com/shooting-shit/42626-just-more-proof-obama-has-poor-judgment.html) here to which your foaming-at-the-mouth pal (Popeye) didn't respond with LOGIC but rather with EMOTION - case in point. IRRATIONAL EMOTIONS...not LOGIC.

I'm not mad at the guy just as I am not mad at a kid crying for candy. Also, I heard something about him being a single dad which actually I have a soft spot for.....


What I'm saying all and all is this: try to look beyond the obvious which for most of us is 1)what we want to believe 2)what most of our friends and family members believe 3)what feels "comfortable"

Here's an example: right at this moment are you standing still or moving?

It's not a trick question.
The answer is both. Yep? If I told you you were moving really fast while you sat at your computer chair you would swear I was crazy....



BUT, looking at things the way you probably always have based on a limited, skewed view, your answer would be "standing still".

Of course when you gain more information and come to know that right now at this point the earth is spinning on its' access at over 800 miles/per hour, you can see how something that seems so obvious to you, is in fact alot more complex. Plus, the person who said "moving" would be just as "right" as you who answered standing still.....


All this talk about high taxes vs. low taxes, capitalism vs. socialism it's not as simple as that. John McCain can make stupid statements like "we don't want to become France or Sweden!" because he knows that only 17% of Americans have passports and since they haven't seen anything else (really) he can scare them. Those of us blessed with more exposure know the benefits of unbridled capitalism and small government but also know the advantagesg of more moderate capitalism and bigger government which is now being called "socialism" and "communism" (what a joke) by the uninformed. I can assure you that the average Swede for instance lives ALOT better than the average person in Arkansas. NOTICE I SAID AVERAGE as in statistical mean. That said, it's alot harder for a Swede to become a millionaire or billionaire than it is an American.

So the question is does society measure success by the outliers (those either to the left or the right of the bell curve) or does it look at the average person (statistical mean).

On a different note, Popeye please open up an Amazon.com account and start reading some books writen by people who don't have the first name Rush or Sean.
Thanks.

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Let me say something less smart-assed and more productive since the purpose of this forum is ideally to really learn something that can not only put more cash in our pockets but more useful knowledge in our brains.


I'm issuing a formal challenge to you Popeye and you too Erect. Not just a challenge, an invitation to all the "ignorant Liberals" and un-informed masses here. Since everyone who doesn't agree with what you guys consider "obvious", let's make a deal. You send me the name of a book that you think those that don't agree with you need to read in order to "see the light" and I'll send you an Amazon.com gift certificate for a book that I think would do you some good. You don't even need to "waste" your money. I'll send it free. This is not a joke as I have sent friends I met on WF books before...


PM me the name of the book and I'll have it read within 21 days or less. After reading the book I will have absolutely NO PROBLEM starting a thread where I can post for everyone what I learned. As a member of the uneducated masses, I may be indoctrinated and through your help I can see the light. It may lead me to vote for McCain or Ron Paul if the facts are strong enough. If you really want to America like you say you do, please do that. It's a small price to pay since it literally only takes 1 vote to win an election.

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That goes for you too Popeye. Talk is cheap. Stop wasting 1000100000111's. Send me the name of a book written by someone who doesn't appear on Fox News every other day and I will totally read it.


No, let me take it one step further, send me the name of the most right of center author you know. Someone the "mainstream" liberal press hates. Also, by the way, that book you claim "proves" Obama is a terrorist, from yesterday's thread? Here's what it's actually about:

Amazon.com Review
William Ayers brings a reporter's eye and an activist's heart to this well-written and profoundly disturbing book, A Kind and Just Parent: The Children of Juvenile Court. Ayers, who teaches offenders in Chicago's juvenile court system, is a brilliant storyteller, the damning fly on the wall. His book portrays the lives of his students--both within the juvenile temporary detention center and on the "outside." Ayers puts their stories into historical context; argues passionately about the roles of media, poverty, and neglect; refutes the idea of teenager as "superpredator"; and challenges parents--all of us--to ask the question, "Is this good enough for my child?" when determining the standard to use when we think of justice for kids. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.

From Library Journal
Headlines regularly depict juvenile criminals as extreme and violent "superpredators"?a distorted and incomplete picture that shapes the way Americans think and feel about poor (and mostly minority) city kids. For five years, Ayers, a former member of the radical 1960s Weathermen organization, acted as a teacher and an observer in Chicago's Juvenile Court prison, the nation's first?and largest?institution of juvenile justice. Founded by the legendary Jane Addams to act as a "kind and just parent" for children in need, the court today epitomizes the confused and confusing way American justice deals with children. In Ayers's book, an account of one year in his classroom there, students describe their lives, analyze their situations, and think about their futures. Like Jonathan Kozol in Amazing Grace (LJ 10/1/95), Ayers shows that we must overcome our preconceived notions of these children and learn to deal with the realities of their lives. Ayers is a born educator and communicator, with a voice of hope. Recommended for general collections.?Sandra K. Lindheimer, Middlesex Law Lib., Cambridge, Mass.
Copyright 1997 Reed Business Information, Inc. --This text refers to an out of print or unavailable edition of this title.


YEAH SOUNDS REAL SCARY, HUH?!


WHO WANTS A PRESIDENT WITH COMPASSION, GOD FORBID!!!!!!
 
Honestly, it does not matter who wins, our economy isn't going to improve because of politics. The economy will improve due to the private sector - businesses actually making money for people to spend.

However, if you all want to say Bush is dumb, just look at who is actually signing the bills and making the laws - Congress and the Senate. Sure, it is easy to blame all the troubles on the associated person, but they aren't the only person to blame.

The fact is, none of the current politicians have a desire to help this country, they are out for one thing - your money. If they truly cared about the people they represent, they wouldn't be raising taxes to fund more money to spend on useless programs - they would be cutting the current useless programs and redistributing that money. Instead, they have to pay off the other politicians with $150 billion dollars in earmarks just to get enough votes to pass their current useless program.

The point is, it doesn't matter who you vote for, or who is dumber than who - politicians are all dumb and just want your money and could care less about helping you.
 
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