Any Strictly "Automation" Blogs Out There? iMacros, PHP Scripts, Cron Jobs topics

guerilla said:
If you can't figure out imacros, you should get off the internets.
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Can you leave your personal opinions about me off this thread? To use your analogy

"if you can't finish college you should get out of business".

Did I say I couldn't figure out imacros? Or did I say I didn't want to spend the time necessary to gain an expert's level of knowledge.

Now is not the time to mix personal feelings and business. If you can't figure that out please stop posting on this thread....
 


riddarhusetgal said:
Can you leave your personal opinions about me off this thread? To use your analogy

"if you can't finish college you should get out of business".

Did I say I couldn't figure out imacros? Or did I say I didn't want to spend the time necessary to gain an expert's level of knowledge.

Now is not the time to mix personal feelings and business. If you can't figure that out please stop posting on this thread....
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I promise I'm not trying to be offensive with this, but do you realize that you could have figured out how to write a google results scraper in PHP and test it a few times in the time that it took you to write the last 3 posts?
 
riddarhusetgal said:
Hi, I want to address this point because it's something I hear coders say alot and being a strategy person I'd like to elucidate my thinking...

It's a bit wordy (but you guys are probably used to that when it comes to me....so here goes).


Do you know what the number 8766 Represents?

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Great post.
 
Bofu2U said:
I'll make you a deal, you let me know exactly what you want on Contempt.me for automation because I need some ideas for new posts - haha. OP - Skype me @ Contempt.me (thats the username) and we'll talk about it.

Edit: now you have me writing a post called "The Automation Mindset" - DAMN YOU. 8 AM + BLOGGING = GAHHHHH
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Shit, I missed this.

I'll make you a better deal. PM any needs you have related to say a virtual assistant, content writers and I'll loan you some of my staff for say 1 or 2 hours a day SO YOU'LL HAVE MORE TIME TO POST.

Once more, if it's really good stuff, hell you can make it a private members area available only to WF invited members OR VIA SUBSCRIPTION.

Since I started the thread, I'll be the proactive one and contact you.
 
guerilla said:
It wasn't personal. Anyone who can't figure out how to run imacros should get offline and stop trying to make money.
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I can see where she's coming from, I can appreciate managing your time efficiently to get the most ROI from the time you spent.

Unfortunately, I'm still terrible at this- for example, today, I spent 2 hours debugging a PHP script that will automate some SEO tasks that will make my life a little easier and maybe increase my income by $XXX a year. What I should have been doing is scaling up a PPC campaign that will probably bring me $XXX more a day profit if I spend a few hours scaling it up.

I'm all about automation, I think that any task you do on a computer can and should be automated. Unless it's a captcha, it can be done by a computer faster than you(and I outsource captcha solving very cheaply too).
I was considering starting an automation blog a few months back, but ultimately I decided against it, because sharing some of my scripts widely would be suicide.

Why provide your competition with the source of your competitive advantage?

That said, if anyone wants to chat about automation privately, feel free to drop me a PM, I've got a wide range of scripts for doing lots of different PPC/SEO tasks that I would gladly share privately, as long as they dont become widespread in the general public.
 
Bofu2U said:
I promise I'm not trying to be offensive with this, but do you realize that you could have figured out how to write a google results scraper in PHP and test it a few times in the time that it took you to write the last 3 posts?
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That's what I'm sayin. PHP is not hard. You don't have to become a master of software engineering or object oriented programming. You just have to learn how to write a fucking script. Web automation is some of the simplest programming there is, it should only take a smart person a few weeks to a few months at most to learn enough to be productive. I don't know who she's outsourcing to, but chances are after a few months of teaching herself she'd be near or as good as the people she's outsourcing to, since most of them seem to suck.

PS Riddar, on a side note, you seem like the biggest pain in the ass ever. Do you mind posting a pic? You have to be hot.
 
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+rep for "you seem like the biggest pain in the ass ever. Do you mind posting a pic? You have to be hot."

On another note; Riddar you should see if someone will cross the article directory plugin up with the following writer's forum software .

I'm guessing that in addition to "hot", you are probably "smart" and know you owe me a copy if it works.
 
Riddar, the Epic size of your post in this thread and other threads leaves me perplexed. Don''t respond..just sayen

btw.. you code gurus, I'm one of those idiots that can't do it. I don't want to do it. I would rather pay someone or do a trade off. I have been to Eli's site several times and it hurts my fucking head. It's cool as hell but pains my brainz.

A few years ago I learned "EasyLanguage" in Tradestation for building backtesting tools and I hated every fucking minute of it.

I'm a dumbass with code and I appreciate it when someone helps me, at the same time I have often helped others with a IM tip or a Photoshop trick.
 
riddarhusetgal said:
Blah, blah, blah, hours in a year, blah, blah blah.
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Really I should have read your whole response, but honestly I'm not up for reading a fucking essay right now.

But from what I did read (about the 1st half) is you have no desire to learn a language and your'd rather outsource it.

Fine.

Then what the fuck are you coming here and spouting off about? If your not going to take the time to learn it then it'll do you no use to actually read it. In fact I'm not sure why you brought up the topic on the first place.

Keep outsourcing that's fine, I could care less.

I want my 15 min back.
 
I hate to admit this, but I have never read her post. They are just too long, I don't have that kind of time. I'm a skimmer anyway

I need a stay in a HI Express .get back on my game
 
rawbones said:
I hate to admit this, but I have never read her post. They are just too long, I don't have that kind of time. I'm a skimmer anyway
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I find it more efficient to read everyone responses to her, instead, to get the jest of whatever it was she was saying.
 
I read riddars long post and if I may summarize. She's basically saying she's a bureaucrat and there's not enough time in a year for her to learn programming because she can hire other people to do it.

I respect that excuse because I too am a bureaucrat in the same position. However I can tell ya from a person who's in your exact position and probably with a bit more experience tbh, you are completely misguided. I don't mean that in a sniping way at ya i'm being sincere. For someone with little technical knowledge learning a programming language takes about 2-3 weeks. Yes it takes years to master but not to learn the basics which will help your business tremendously. Having programming skills is a TIME SAVER not a time taker. Like right now you're posting this thread to try to find a solution. People who have both your skills and basic programming don't need to do that. I outsource a TON. Yet I save a ton of time because i know exactly how to speak to programmers and tell them what I want in terms they need so they not only get the job done faster but cheaper and better. I also take less risks. No one is going to give me a poorly written script or tell me they're a good programmer before I hire them because I know exactly what i'm getting within 30 seconds of reading their work. I also can proof read and beta test their work so nothing has to get changed later. I don't have to browse around for the best programmers, they come to me because I have the skillsets to make their jobs easier. I don't have to go asking questions on how to solve a simple problem because I can do it myself in less time it takes for me to ask someone how to solve it. Same thing with site updates and bug fixes.

I understand your mindset though and it really is hard to break out of your comfort zone and learn a skillset that will take your business to another level, but trust me if you want to be the best it's what you have to do. I have THOUSANDS not hundreds but literally thousands of emails from people over the years that have told me they had all the exact same excuses you listed in your post before they started researching advanced seo. They all say the same thing. Once they got convinced to learn it and they did their business has skyrocketed. They make better more informed decisions, the work gets done easier and more efficiently and they're less codependant. I don't think anyone who is in your position and has taken the time to learn how to program is going to come on here and defend your post and say yeah i wish I didn't waste that time learning it. It's just not going to happen. It's just too smart of a thing you can do.

If for any other reason, do it because it'll make you understand marketing, seo and ppc better. It really honest to God will. No matter how good you think you are your are SEO your knowledge will double once you learn programming. You have no idea what knowledge you're missing out on without those skillsets to help you understand. And the advice goes both ways. I firmly believe programmers should definitely learn marketing. It'll make what you produce soo much more useful and successful. It'll also keep your failure rate lower.
 
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Deliguy said:
Yet I save a ton of time because i know exactly how to speak to programmers and tell them what I want in terms they need so they not only get the job done faster but cheaper and better.
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I'd like to expand on that.

A very large percentage of outsourcing jobs that most non-programmers send to India fail for 1 reason ... communication breakdown. Most think they just found the wrong person and never look in the mirror.

Non-geeks have 2 massive barriers to deal with, spoken language and programming language. If you know the basics of programming, you can be on the same page as far as the job specifics and only deal with choppy language .. which you can overlook if the price is right.

Your oursourcers will get less frustrated with you since you can paint them a clear picture of what exactly you need done. This keeps your workers happy and around longer. It also means they you never have to deal with someone not responding to your IMs because they hate working with you.

I have outsourced many things in the past and most are successful. For larger jobs, I even break shit down to the point of laying out the database and setting up rewrites for them to work with. That's 5 minutes of my time that will save them headaches and assure that they are following the structure I desire.

I know this thread is about automation and the above is about outsourcing but the exact same fundamentals apply. There is very little automation you can do that's not considered advanced programming. If you want to outsource something automated, speaking nerd language will get the job done faster, cheaper and correct .. the first time.
 
^^^ You fuckers, You are dead on. Sometimes I don't even know how to ask a coding question.

Where would you suggest an ignorant like me start? Fuck, I don't want to do this but I will.
 
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Now that i got the sincere trying to help post out of the way. Yes I enjoy butting heads with you because you annoy me. I normally don't like to be rude to others or say things that are discouraging to others but i can't help it whenever i read a new post by you. You're a downer to me on every level.

We are clearly polar opposites and would probably not mesh well in person. Judging on your past posts and a few traits i've noticed I'll be more specific on what bothers me about you:

You are rude and unhelpful to newbies but you want help from people more experienced then you.
You are unwilling to heed advice or be impartial to your current opinions on your problems.
You're superficial.
You would rather try to convince everyone around you to not improve on themselves then to improve on yourself.
You are too conceided to accept critism or even allow a joke at your expense.
You ask for solutions to your problems but yet you offer none.
You have no problem trashing other people's flaws but aren't comfortable with your own to be sincere.
 
rawbones said:
^^^ You fuckers, You are dead on. Sometimes I don't even know how to ask a coding question.

Where would you suggest an ignorant like me start? Fuck, I don't want to do this but I will.
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You can ask just about anything related to coding in the Design, Development & Programming - WickedFire - Affiliate Marketing Forum - Internet Marketing Webmaster SEO Forum section. There's a lot of really talented people in there and no one is judgemental about newbie questions because thats the thing about programming, all big problems tend to have a super quick n easy solution. Plus someone wouldn't know the answer if they didn't already face the problem at one point. Also you can join the chat in my sig for quick answers in the middle of the night.
 
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riddarhusetgal said:
Does his trustrank analysis have to do with PPC? Or perhaps you missed that?
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I did not miss or forget about his "trust rank" post. In fact I'm the one who coined the term and he wrote linkbait on it. Perhaps you were too hasty in searching his blog desperately trying to find a post that mentions seo to prove me wrong.
 
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erect said:
Edit: I've always though a good idea for a blog would be BlueHatPHP ... a blog built to share code behind Eli's ramblings.
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This has actually been done several times but unfortunately they've all eventually closed as well. A few (such as JerJers, seostomps and tobsn) even used to program the scripts i've given pseudocode for and sold them and I've always allowed ppl to post the links in the comments and sell the scripts to that post as long as I've gotten a chance to review over the code and ensure its accuracy. A lot of comments still have active links to purchase the scripts. I've also been known to email people my personal scripts who leave helpful comments showing good understanding of the technique.
 
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