Anyone familiar with Slow Carb diet?

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Simple question for anyone familiar with the slow carb diet.

TF says not to drink beer, but my favorite beer has 9g of carbs and 0g sugar.

Since it has no sugar, it has to be OK in moderation doesn't it?

I mean, he says a few glasses of wine a day is fine, and most wines have at least some sugar in them ...

I'm doing awesome on the "diet" after 5 days, but would def enjoy a few beers on this hot afternoon.
 


Has there ever been any studies done to determine the ill effects of stressing out too much about being healthy?

There has to be a line right? Everyone seems to be a health nut these days, and some seem to stress about it so much, that it makes me wonder if it's detrimental to their health. There's got to be a point where the amount of stress your taking on is actually hurting you more than the healthy living is helping you, no?
 
dsiomtw said:
Simple question for anyone familiar with the slow carb diet.

TF says not to drink beer, but my favorite beer has 9g of carbs and 0g sugar.

Since it has no sugar, it has to be OK in moderation doesn't it?

I mean, he says a few glasses of wine a day is fine, and most wines have at least some sugar in them ...

I'm doing awesome on the "diet" after 5 days, but would def enjoy a few beers on this hot afternoon.
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Barley is a grain, no grains, no beer.

You can have red wine and hard liquor though.

Has there ever been any studies done to determine the ill effects of stressing out too much about being healthy?

There has to be a line right? Everyone seems to be a health nut these days, and some seem to stress about it so much, that it makes me wonder if it's detrimental to their health. There's got to be a point where the amount of stress your taking on is actually hurting you more than the healthy living is helping you, no?
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you sound fat. I did the same diet that this thread is about, I didn’t do it to get healthy, I did it to make veins pop out of my fucking abs, for hot girls. It worked (the diet and the veins popping out of my abs).
 
qqbot said:
you sound fat.
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No, not at all, and that's kind of the thing. I figure as long as I comfortably fit into 32" waist jeans, I'm good to go. If they ever start getting a little tight, I know it's time to drop a few pounds. Good enough for me.

It was actually an honest question. I'm sure we all know some women who are so healthy they now have pecs instead of boobs, or other people who are adamant they're living until they're 120, and carefully watch every calorie that goes into their body, etc. There has to be a line there where the amount of stress this causes is actually more detrimental than healthy, no?
 
It's not really stressful if you're into it. It's kind of fun tracking all your food and measuring stuff out. Kind of like optimizing a campaign. Only time you'd need to be super strict is if you were trying to do a bodybuilding competition, especially if you're natty. A string of bad meals/sleep can easily throw your hormones off and fuck up your diet.
 
It's another fad diet, follows the same fad diet formula:

  • Hyper optimize your own body to look great through personal experimentation
  • Find a few other people who get similar results following what you did
  • Write a book about how it will work for everyone on the planet
  • When the majority of people who try it get limited or marginal results, explain it away by saying they didn't follow the system
  • Profit
The best system is to do what Tim Ferris did, not what he wrote. That is, find out what works for you through personal experimentation. If you can drink your 0g sugar beer with no noticeable ill effects, then drink that shit and enjoy your life.
 
A fad diet? Dude you sound so ignorant. It's just his explanation of a very healthy way of eating. That probably a billion people have been doing for 1,000s of years.

He does talk out of his ass a lot though. Like regarding this alcohol stuff. He said:

"Beer just does not simply fit into the slow-carb diet anywhere because maltose in beer metabolizes faster than table sugar and sometimes faster than glucose itself. If you can imagine yourself eating 2 or 3 Krispy Kreme donuts every time you have a bottle of beer, that's roughly the impact you're having on fat gain. I think that's no real exaggeration."

But that's a bunch of BS because by the time you're drinking beer from your bottle there's no maltose in it.

Does he just make this shit up or what?
 
qqbot said:
Did you read the book at all? I'm just telling him what Tim Ferris says.
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Fuck Tim Ferris. Most overrated author on the planet. Guy's an idiot. Writes a "business" book with a catchy, Gary Halbert inspired title, and now suddenly he's the world's genius on every topic from A to Z.

You guys sure do love your gurus!
 
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That there is marketing my friend.

mpbiz said:
Fuck Tim Ferris. Most overrated author on the planet. Guy's an idiot. Writes a "business" book with a catchy, Gary Halbert inspired title, and now suddenly he's the world's genius on every topic from A to Z.

You guys sure do love your gurus!
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dsiomtw said:
A fad diet? Dude you sound so ignorant. It's just his explanation of a very healthy way of eating. That probably a billion people have been doing for 1,000s of years.
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I read the book (I read all his books). Healthy is debatable: like another poster mentioned the emphasis is on aesthetic results. Free license on red meat and eggs, binge on unlimited junk food for a full day as part of your weekly routine, large volumes of legumes without the foods legumes were traditionally eaten with, no fruit (but wine is fine?)... this is all highly experimental and resembles no traditional diet (most traditional diets were based on starches). Not to mention all the weight loss strategies that could be straight up dangerous for many people.

If you want to use this as a starting template then go for it. The same could be said for any of the hyped up diets in the past decade. What I'm saying is don't treat it as gospel. The best diet is the one you create for yourself from personal experimentation and you're not going to find that in a book.
 
Low carb and low fat, isn't this the ducan diet renamed to be marketed for the male audience. Such a diet loses you a high proportion of muscle mass unless you do resistance training.
 
SeoReborn said:
Such a diet loses you a high proportion of muscle mass unless you do resistance training.
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If you are 50% over weight you will likely have muscle mass to lose in proportion to the extra weight it has to carry. Nothing to worry about.
 
AdamC said:
If you are 50% over weight you will likely have muscle mass to lose in proportion to the extra weight it has to carry. Nothing to worry about.
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You will have muscle mass to lose because of the muscle built up due to supporting the extra weight. However, the muscle mass loss from this diet is not only the consequence of subsequent fat loss, but the body metabolising the muscle to provide energy. Losing weight and having a higher a proportion of fat instead is not a good thing. The metabolic syndrome is not due to being overweight on muscle but being overweight on fat.
 
SeoReborn said:
You will have muscle mass to lose because of the muscle built up due to supporting the extra weight. However, the muscle mass loss from this diet is not only the consequence of subsequent fat loss, but the body metabolising the muscle to provide energy. Losing weight and having a higher a proportion of fat instead is not a good thing. The metabolic syndrome is not due to being overweight on muscle but being overweight on fat.
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You would need to be starving and underweight to start burning muscle instead of fat.
 
AdamC said:
You would need to be starving and underweight to start burning muscle instead of fat.
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You don't need to be underweight to be burning muscle.

Burning muscle depends on the kind of energy your body has been adapted to and the composition of the diet.

There are 2 fuels the body can use for energy, either glucose or fat. By lowing your glucose i.e. low carb, while increasing the fat, your body keto adapts and use fat for energy instead. Hence in this situation your body does not need to resort to glycogenolysis.

With lowering fat and keeping your carbs high, the body is still using glucose as the primary fuel, and hence glycogenolysis is more likely to be used rather than fat.

This has been demonstrated in numerous studies where low fat diet always loses more proportion of muscle mass compared to low fat diets.

So what happens when you reduce both carb and fat in a diet. Your body cannot use dietary fats for fuel and cannot use dietary carb for fuels. Neither are you keto adapted and hence glycogenolysis is more frequently use.

When a person is starving, they are not getting enough carb or fat, and hence this occurs too.
 
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