Anyone make money as a copywriter for sales letters?

Ronnie55

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Thinking of getting into it.

I'm a good writer and I learn pretty quickly so I think I'd be able to improve steadily.

And since companies of varying sizes have different budgets, I figured I could find a way to start out with smaller companies with less of a budget, until I'm able to demand a higher price for my work.

I'd focus on writing landing pages, sales copy for emails, product releases, brochures, etc.

Just curious if anyone is doing this and what considerations I should make before trying it.
 


Definitely. Was one of my best selling WSO services, also had a great software WSO priced at $7.99, $17.99 and $199.99 (different tiered pricing). Simple make money automation software program that WaFo user installs and clicks "Make money" button to print out .tif images of money onto printer paper, made a LOT of people a LOT of money.
 
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EricVonDoobie said:
Definitely. Was one of my best selling WSO services, also had a great software WSO priced at $7.99, $17.99 and $199.99 (different tiered pricing). Simple make money automation software program that WaFo user installs and clicks "Make money" button to print out .tif images of money onto printer paper, made a LOT of people a LOT of money.
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It seems like you're asking if copywriters exist and if they get paid for writing sales letters.

Good news, in both cases the answer is yes.
 
Ronnie55 said:
I'm a good writer...
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Effective sales writing is not about "good writing" at all. It's about catering to the readers' neediness using simple words to create an emotional response.

Once you have that part nailed you can sell anything. Good luck. :smilie_weihn_winki:
 
yes. all i do is copywrite.

don't work for another (excuse my language) fucking company, start your own business. all you need to do is find a traffic source (facebook, google, unlimited traffic basically), write your sales copy on a landing page which costs nearly nothing of your time or money, and sell ANYTHING... any kind of offer will do if you write a good landing page (you can sell an ebook, physical product, poop, whatever). finally, bank that money in your bank account or paypal.

there's virtually no competition online if you're innovative since you'll have an endless stream of ideas to use, traffic is dirt cheap, people have money in their wallets that they don't know what to do with, so what are you waiting for? get them to hand over their money to you.

if you're a talented copywriter, you can sell deep fried pig asshole on a stick to a vegan. after all, someone persuaded those people to turn vegan in the first place, so there's nothing stopping you from persuading them


also, blueyonder, Y R U SELLING COPY. you can make 10 times more if you utilize the copy directly to persuade people to dump money into your pockets instead of being the guy who writes copy and sells the copy to others for a fixed rate. enlighten me brother.
 
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As others have said, there are plenty of individuals writing copy on WF, with varying degrees of success.

As BlueYonder said, being a "good writer", especially by English class standards, is not enough to do well in the world of online content and copy. It's a different world, and you should definitely do a bit of reading before trying to jump in. And being an effective copywriter has more to do with marketing than grammar any day of the week.

Of course, with copywriting, you'll need to have evidence that you can actually write effective copy - especially since it is straightforward enough to see results from your efforts. You write effective copy, you get results.

Regardless of company budgets, you should practice on your own websites and work on conversions first, then price yourself accordingly, otherwise you'll be trying to price yourself out of your existing clients.

If you find you're not as effective at writing sales letters or that you don't enjoy writing them, there are different sorts of copy and content needed online as well. We hear a lot about sales letters, usually meaning the "hard sale" copy with formulas and such, but the world of content online is wide open and you can do well in a variety of fields - although many of them aren't discussed much on WF.

gbmack said:
also, blueyonder, Y R U SELLING COPY. you can make 10 times more if you utilize the copy directly to persuade people to dump money into your pockets instead of being the guy who writes copy and sells the copy to others for a fixed rate. enlighten me brother.
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I know you asked BlueYonder (who is not a brother, I don't believe), but I've been asked this question countless times over the last nine years of selling content online. Granted, I can only speak for myself, of course.

Think of a gold rush. Thousands of would-be millionaires rush to the hills to search for gold. Some strike it rich and others go broke. But the guy selling the shovels to the miners has a steady, dependable income regardless of who makes it big and who busts.

Those of us who specialize in services might dabble with the gold, but most of us realize that there is long-term, dependable profit in shovels. :)
 
Pheasant said:
It seems like you're asking if copywriters exist and if they get paid for writing sales letters.

Good news, in both cases the answer is yes.
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Hah Yeah I guess my question was a bit dumb. I was mostly asking if any IM guys do it, or WF people.

My question has been answered though

And I love the advice in this thread to practice with my own websites first. I'll definitely try to write great sales copy on my own sites for practice, and make adjustments from there!

TY everyone for the responses. As usual, this thread has tons of great info. gonna read this 5 times probably as I work toward my goal.
 
InternetAuthor said:
As others have said, there are plenty of individuals writing copy on WF, with varying degrees of success.

As BlueYonder said, being a "good writer", especially by English class standards, is not enough to do well in the world of online content and copy. It's a different world, and you should definitely do a bit of reading before trying to jump in. And being an effective copywriter has more to do with marketing than grammar any day of the week.

Of course, with copywriting, you'll need to have evidence that you can actually write effective copy - especially since it is straightforward enough to see results from your efforts. You write effective copy, you get results.

Regardless of company budgets, you should practice on your own websites and work on conversions first, then price yourself accordingly, otherwise you'll be trying to price yourself out of your existing clients.

If you find you're not as effective at writing sales letters or that you don't enjoy writing them, there are different sorts of copy and content needed online as well. We hear a lot about sales letters, usually meaning the "hard sale" copy with formulas and such, but the world of content online is wide open and you can do well in a variety of fields - although many of them aren't discussed much on WF.



I know you asked BlueYonder (who is not a brother, I don't believe), but I've been asked this question countless times over the last nine years of selling content online. Granted, I can only speak for myself, of course.

Think of a gold rush. Thousands of would-be millionaires rush to the hills to search for gold. Some strike it rich and others go broke. But the guy selling the shovels to the miners has a steady, dependable income regardless of who makes it big and who busts.

Those of us who specialize in services might dabble with the gold, but most of us realize that there is long-term, dependable profit in shovels. :)
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i've always thought of copywriters as the guys who sell the shovels. for example, if i write my own copy to sell a bizop clickbank product or a WSO, i'm essentially selling the shovel of making money online to all the peasants who want the gold. easy $50k+ in the bank from writing one sales letter.

then again, i'm not a huge fan of analogies or metaphors because anything can be reframed into being a shovel, gold, a penis, etc.

and blueyonder is my brother. jk.
 
conjamuk said:
Which is why I outsource to someone with years of experience. Just like programming.
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Yeah, when you try to do too much, I've found you can fail miserably. That's not to say you can't write your own copy and hold your ass enough to be everything to your business.

It's sometimes just a lot easier to hire a fucking copywriter, which goes back to your question OP; Yes, you can make a real fat living if you have what it takes to write a winning control
 
skohh said:
Copywriting is hard
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This is something you discover when you attempt DIY copywriting, coding or whatever skill set you'd rather not pay for. It's like me installing lighting fixtures because the jolly guys with wrenches made it look so easy on TV. Left to my inexperienced hands, I wound up shorting out half the electricity in the house. Now I need to get an electrician to finish the install, replace the fried line and repair the switch box. Copywriting and electrical work are the same: messing them up is gonna cost ya.

A good copywriter makes the craft look easy, just like what Fred Astaire once said about dancing. He was probably the world's smoothest dancer, and remarked it's grinding hard work making it look easy.
 
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