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I have a Arbi question....I was wondering i doing Arbi. using google adwords with a high paying keyword.. Im just wondering why i'm i getting clicks for 10cents for a keyword thats should be more then 1 or 2 bucks? Do you have to get a Good QS and CTR before you can get the high paying price for that keyword?

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The adwords tool sucks as far as guessing how much you'll get for clicks. You probably just picked a keyword that doesnt pay well on the content network. Either that or you got smartpriced.

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Yea i think i got smartprice. I used Keyword Country to pick my keywords.. I'm paying about .25 cents per click. I guess i give it a few days and see what i happen before i change up my plan!! thanks
 
Really!! Like me see what i can do...I paid that much since i thought i would get at least a dollar or more so...Maybe i have to skill it down down some..

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yes 25 cents is a lot for arbi unless you've already been getting some clicks at alower price and can justify ther higher bid.
 
Using adwords, you should be profitable earning like $0.05/click or so. You just have to get tons of volume that way. I have some niches earning me $0.25/click and some earning like $0.04/click on adsense and I'm profitable.

For me it's a huge tradeoff right now because I was averaging about $0.60/click with YPN, but you're pretty limited to static content sites with YPN. All the stuff I do with adsense now is highly dynamic, so it's easier to push volume, but harder to get high CPCs.

Eventually I'm planning on creating more static YPN sites, but for now building volume in adwords is pretty exciting.

Feel free to PM me or ask here if you want any help.
 
DavidR, are you getting around 2:1 from those 0.04$ clicks? It must be hard to make profit from so cheap clicks. Congrats to you!
 
Yes, I do make a profit on $0.04/click. Across all my campaigns I'm seeing 2:1 returns. Some do much better than that too. With my extremely low bids, I will see very high ROI when my CPCs increase. I was averaging about $0.08/click awhile back and now I'm averaging $0.13-$0.15/click overall, so CPCs are going up for me.
 
What I mean is that you are propably buying cheap clicks around 0.01$ and to make a ROI around 2:1 on clicks priced as 0.04$ you must get high CTR like 50%. For me is hard to make such high CTR 'cause cheap traffic from third party ppc engines in most cases just suck. Or I just missed something. ;-) Anyway, got for you. Congrats again.
 
I use adwords to get 1 cent clicks. It really depends on the niche. When I try something new I always start with 1 cent/click. If the return is huge and the traffic is a little low, I up my bids. Just test everything and you'll get it.
 
DavidR: a few questions:

How are you researching potential niches?

How many keywords are you running per adwords compaign? Spread accross how many adgroups?
 
I'll give you guys a secret weapon: AdWords Editor. Use the keyword grouper tool to group common terms into ad groups.

With how little I have to make to be profitable, I don't research niches at all. I just throw keywords into campaigns and let it fly. I don't really keep track of how many keywords I use in a given niche, but to get keywords I just use AdWords Keyword Tool and export them to CSV.

Then I just create one ad group in adwords editor, paste all my new keywords in there (that are relevant to eachother), run the keyword grouper tool, and I get tons of ad groups created on-the-fly. I have some campaigns with a couple ad groups and a couple campaigns with 100-200 ad groups.

I haven't confirmed this yet, but I'm guessing that the QS will go up when you group your common terms into ad groups.
 
DavidR,

Are you using the search or content network? And how many Adwords accounts do you have? I have 2 Adwords accounts and they're filling up quick as Google only allows 25 campaigns per account.

Thanks

DavidR said:
I'll give you guys a secret weapon: AdWords Editor. Use the keyword grouper tool to group common terms into ad groups.

With how little I have to make to be profitable, I don't research niches at all. I just throw keywords into campaigns and let it fly. I don't really keep track of how many keywords I use in a given niche, but to get keywords I just use AdWords Keyword Tool and export them to CSV.

Then I just create one ad group in adwords editor, paste all my new keywords in there (that are relevant to eachother), run the keyword grouper tool, and I get tons of ad groups created on-the-fly. I have some campaigns with a couple ad groups and a couple campaigns with 100-200 ad groups.

I haven't confirmed this yet, but I'm guessing that the QS will go up when you group your common terms into ad groups.
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dekalog6 said:
DavidR,

Are you using the search or content network? And how many Adwords accounts do you have? I have 2 Adwords accounts and they're filling up quick as Google only allows 25 campaigns per account.

Thanks
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I never knew the limit for campaigns was so low...
 
All of my Arbi stuff goes to a landing page. Lately I have been experiencing with sending to parked pages since I get a better click through rate (60-80%) as well as .10 - .20 per click.

Usually when I am buying at .02-.03 a click, I send it to a page with about 50% CTR, getting .10-.20 per click from adwords, I don't make much in that area. I tried out some lawyer other high keywords but they don't seem to get very good returns per click. I highly SEO each of my arbitradge pages and get inboud links asap so eventually they all become profitable without arbi. Some might eventually hit and I can focus on getting them more good traffic, but usually I just let the income cover the purchase of new domain names, hosting, etc...

I am just getting started, and have lost some money with arbi already, but I think I can learn more and figure out better returns.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 
You people who get under $0,5 ppc should really try optimizing your content!
Stuff in more keywords, use more h1, h2, strong, italics etc on the highest paying keywords in your text.
Try using meta tags too. Trying is always worth it, won't take much time.
If you can't get your ppc up anyway I think you are in the wrong niches.
If you're doing profit, sure it's good, but if you can make 3x more profit from just finding other niches or optimizing your content and still spending the same amount of time, that's hell alot better!
 
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