ARM THE TEACHERS ? ? ?

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Banks hire armed guards all the time, many banks also have paid bank staff that secretly carry firearms to protect the bank & cash if someone robs the place. Shouldn't we treat kids, a more valuable asset in a similar way?

I never see an armed guard in a bank , except the armored trucks that stop by a couple times/wk. Most robbers know this (except the bangers and their takeovers), banks are soft targets. The flip side is the robbery is investigated by FBI in lieu of over burdened local Police.

Bank policy is typically, comply with all demands. One person hurt carries a lawsuit greater than all the cash in any bank branch, typically way less than $1M. Really, typically less than a few hundred thousand.

No one is protecting that cash as a business decision.

You want to give teachers "tools" to deal with psychos with guns, how about just take the guns out of the equation?

Because you can't. Criminals do not follow the law. Why is that so hard for people to understand?
 
You do understand that with 300 some odd million guns in circulation, and with at least half the population unwilling to give them up, you will NEVER take guns out of the equation right? It's ridiculous to even suggest that it's possible. Just stop. Move on to the next point of action.
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Its only the US culture and believe system that thinks its ridiculous. The rest of the modern world understands the logic. Just change the mindset through change. Change starts from a tipping point. This is a huge tipping point..


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Its only the US culture and believe system that thinks its ridiculous. The rest of the modern world understands the logic. Just change the mindset through change. Change starts from a tipping point. This is a huge tipping point..


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The rest of the world is not in any way qualified to share their opinions on what it's like to have half a billion guns circulating in the hands of the country's citizens after over 200 years of armed history, let alone how to go about disarming them.

Change the mindset through change..you sound too much like Obama.

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NRA CONFERENCE.

Amazing, this guy cracks me up, he wants to arm the schools.

It could happen, I wouldn't be shocked, anything can happen in this country
 
I never see an armed guard in a bank , except the armored trucks that stop by a couple times/wk. Most robbers know this (except the bangers and their takeovers), banks are soft targets. The flip side is the robbery is investigated by FBI in lieu of over burdened local Police.

Bank policy is typically, comply with all demands. One person hurt carries a lawsuit greater than all the cash in any bank branch, typically way less than $1M. Really, typically less than a few hundred thousand.

No one is protecting that cash as a business decision.



Because you can't. Criminals do not follow the law. Why is that so hard for people to understand?

Maybe in California, but even in my small town most banks have armed personnel whether it be a guard or a teller with a gun.
 
Time to buy some gun stocks,

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ps. Thank god I don't have any kids, my sperm die pretty quickly.
 
To those saying put guards in teh schools - are you prepared to pay extra taxes to fund this?

According to the following link

Number of educational institutions, by level and control of institution: Selected years, 1980-81 through 2007-08

there are approx 132,000 schools in the USA. Say you put two armed guards in each - that's 264,000 guards. Say you can get them cheap for a salary of just $30,000 a year. That's still $7,920,000,000. I understand that most armed guards expect to be paid more.

It would come out of state budgets, and most states are in trouble financially, thanks to mismanagement locally.

And there's no saying whether the guards would be that effective - that Lanza character managed to kill 26 people in three minutes. The time period is too short to react effectively.

Are you really volunteering to raise taxes to pay for it, in the middle of a fiscal crunch?

The cheap option is either a) ban semi-automatics and automatics or b) raise the taxes on ammunition. Given that the majority don't own guns and don't buy ammunition, the costs won't fall on them at all.
 
You do understand that with 300 some odd million guns in circulation, and with at least half the population unwilling to give them up, you will NEVER take guns out of the equation right? It's ridiculous to even suggest that it's possible. Just stop. Move on to the next point of action.

A qualified armed guard or two per school isn't a terrible idea.

It's a terrible idea.

"Wah blah wah Stop big government, tax is theft, government is inefficient blah blah"


Later that day..........



"We need to spend $500 million+(?) tax payers money hiring, training and equipping government employees to guard schools"
 
To those saying put guards in teh schools - are you prepared to pay extra taxes to fund this?

According to the following link

Number of educational institutions, by level and control of institution: Selected years, 1980-81 through 2007-08

there are approx 132,000 schools in the USA. Say you put two armed guards in each - that's 264,000 guards. Say you can get them cheap for a salary of just $30,000 a year. That's still $7,920,000,000. I understand that most armed guards expect to be paid more.

It would come out of state budgets, and most states are in trouble financially, thanks to mismanagement locally.

And there's no saying whether the guards would be that effective - that Lanza character managed to kill 26 people in three minutes. The time period is too short to react effectively.

Are you really volunteering to raise taxes to pay for it, in the middle of a fiscal crunch?

The cheap option is either a) ban semi-automatics and automatics or b) raise the taxes on ammunition. Given that the majority don't own guns and don't buy ammunition, the costs won't fall on them at all.

You beat me to it before I could read your (more detailed and intelligent than my) post...


Edit: Also, I just realised just how retarded this suggestion is for the obvious fact that if a psychopath can kill 25+ people with guns, why can't he potentially kill an armed guard? Turn up and shoot him in the back of the head?

Then the gun people will say, it's simple we just need 5 armed guards and a machine gun turret. They'll pose the logical question, "How many school shootings have their been at a school with 5 armed guards and a machine gun mounted on the roof? ZERO BUDDY!"
 
pixelo, yeah. Plus there are a gazillion options that don't put the burden on taxpayers, and specifically on the majority taxpayers who don't have guns and shouldn't be forced to subsidize other people's lifestyle choices.

* they could put up the taxes on ammunition to eye-watering levels
* they could ban automatics and semi-automatics
* they could insist that every gun owner took out insurance, so if an incident involving their gun took place, their insurance paid out, instead of the taxpayers pockets being picked again.
* they could insist that every gun has fingerprint recognition software, so that only the owner of the gun can fire it and it can't be used by anyone else. That would have taken care of the Lanza problem. Of course it would put up the cost of the guns, but their lifestyle, they pay. The more sensible gun owners would welcome this - how many are shivering right now wondering if their kids are about to kill them?

There are literally loads of options to control gun crime without putting guns in schools and without looting taxpayers.
 
It's a terrible idea.

"Wah blah wah Stop big government, tax is theft, government is inefficient blah blah"


Later that day..........



"We need to spend $500 million+(?) tax payers money hiring, training and equipping government employees to guard schools"

Jesus you're thick. Do you have any concept of how much it's going to cost to enforce any form of gun controls? Canada tried a gun registry a few years ago. Pissed through more than 2 billion dollars before they gave up. The US with 10 times as many people and a whole hell of a lot more guns? Yeah good luck with that. Putting armed guards in schools would be a whole lot cheaper.
 
Jesus you're thick. Do you have any concept of how much it's going to cost to enforce any form of gun controls? Canada tried a gun registry a few years ago. Pissed through more than 2 billion dollars before they gave up. The US with 10 times as many people and a whole hell of a lot more guns? Yeah good luck with that. Putting armed guards in schools would be a whole lot cheaper.

Yeah, sounds cheap. Maybe 0.01 percent of these guards will be potential maniacs? Who knows, let's just add more guns!

Gun controls already exist, just need to add a few more common sense ones like remove high powered weapons with the sole purpose of killing multiple ppl on a battlefield from civilian use. Don't worry your crappy example of some unspecified gun control in Canada is nt relevant, as most of the rich developed world already have these basic controls, they aren't expensive, and every other developed country has a fraction of gun death that America has.
 
Yes, that will solve all the problems. :D
I hope you're being sarcastic.

In North America, any dumb bitch can (and sometimes does) become a teacher. I've seen a lot of elementary school teachers lose their cool and start yelling after being defied or proven wrong by a child. You don't want to give them guns. It's not that I think the teachers will get mad and start shooting, it's that guns shouldn't be given to idiots who can't control their anger.