Atheists making a statement in the PA Capital
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I swear Atheist's today are a bunch of hipster faggots.
If you really are an atheist who gives a fuck what anyone else believes in. Putting these kind of billboards doesn't do shit. Just makes you look like a believer by saying "herp derp you're a loser if you don't believe in not believing in a god".
If you really are an atheist who gives a fuck what anyone else believes in. Putting these kind of billboards doesn't do shit. Just makes you look like a believer by saying "herp derp you're a loser if you don't believe in not believing in a god".
You actually think that you are going to change minds by publicizing unpopular bible verses? If anything you are going to make people hate atheists more.
That being said, holding a position that there is no higher power, is still holding a position and giving a fuck about religion.
EDIT: Also, religion has simply been a tool to sway and manipulate the public, and still is today (think Rick Santorum).
The fact that billions of people believe in fairytale nonsense affects our every day lives. That's why some of us give a fuck?
How many people have died because of this wonderful thing called religion?
I'm not the type that argues with people over religion, gets up in your face, or tries to convince friends that my beliefs are right. In fact I've known tons of christians who do this though.
I don't see a problem with the billboard, just like I don't see a problem with pro-religion billboards.
The point is that your denial of a higher power is just as credible as someone believing in one, no matter what it is, aliens, gods, space mutants etc...
There is no way you can prove or disprove a higher power.
I will also disclose that I am not religious.
EDIT:
Also, as I said before, organized religion is just a tool to sway and manipulate the public. There are a vast number of other tools at their disposal, such as the media.
Nope
The fact is us Christians have been trolling you athiests for centuries, and you still cant see it.
Everytime an athiest posts a billboard like that, or quotes an obscure verse out of context, we win.
Jesus - Trolling Trolls since 1.
This billboard is arrogance, the bible contains many things - most of which are 'good'.
Teaching intelligent design to kids from a position of authority is arrogance, the kids should be taught to investigate - not believe.
(Arrogant)Atheists <<<<<<<<Agnostic(Neutral)>>>>>>>>> Religious(Arrogant)
No one knows, and anyone making claims either way is arrogant in their beliefs.
Simple as that.
Teaching intelligent design to kids from a position of authority is arrogance, the kids should be taught to investigate - not believe.
(Arrogant)Atheists <<<<<<<<Agnostic(Neutral)>>>>>>>>> Religious(Arrogant)
No one knows, and anyone making claims either way is arrogant in their beliefs.
Simple as that.
Only one small problem. Unless you can read minds you really don't know what someone else knows. So all you can really know is that you don't know.
However, *belief* IS ignorance since if you *knew* you would no longer *believe*.
So one can conclude that believers are ignorant. But one may not conclude that others don't *know* unless they are able to read minds.
That's exactly what I was going to say, you destroyed your own argument.
Don't need to read minds to know that.
No, you missed the point. YOU cannot conclude that someone else doesn't *know* because you can't read minds. You can only conclude that someone who *believes* is ignorant.
anything that could make people think about how stupid and ancient that book people think was written by some god is fine by me. If its a billboard, an ad in the paper or a website, just get people to start thinking for themselves and free themselves from the chains of organized religions.
I can conclude that everyone doesn't know because I know all the cards in the deck, and the deck doesn't have the answers to questions that are currently unanswerable.
You're basically saying,
No one can say tarrot cards aren't true because we can't 'know' what everyone 'knows' about tarrot cards.
You DON'T need to read minds to KNOW tarrot cards are bullshit.
You DON'T need to read minds to KNOW that no one knows.
Ok. We get it.
Ok. We get it.
Ok. We get it.
The only question I have is, "Is it possible to read minds, and are people who 'believe' ignorant?"
So you attack someones beliefs by saying, haha your a dumbass for believing in a book because it says this and this.
How does that change anything? The only thing it accomplishes is making them think they are that much better for not listening to the nay sayers. And it just makes atheists look like a bunch of know it all hipster faggots.
Either way, nobody wins. And your not converting anyone off the bible by being a pompous dick head to them.
I don't know if it is possible because I can't do it. Can other people do it? I can't know without being able to read their minds so I don't know.
*Belief* is that state of mind when you form opinions or draw conclusions about something based on incomplete data. By it's very nature it is a state of ignorance. It may be only mild ignorance if you have a lot of data (yet still incomplete data) or it may be profound ignorance based on nothing that is observed, tested or reasoned, simply whim.