im pretty sure the image is a animated gif that actually does turn both ways.. if u watch it enough youll see it switch..
Athiesm vs Judaism
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im pretty sure the image is a animated gif that actually does turn both ways.. if u watch it enough youll see it switch..
HarveyJ
He is - THE CACTUS!
Gotta say, my favourite thing about hinduism is that it's kinda like Pick'n'Mix or a buffet, when it comes to religious choices.
"Yeah, I'll have some Lakshmi and a side of aloo gobhi, and maybe some gulab jamun with a bit of Nataraja at the end."
Shinto's cool too. Animistic religions tend to be in general, but Shinto's philosophy on divine beings is just hilarious... If something's really impressive, it's probably got a divine spirit inside it, so wrap a nice velvet rope around it, pray to it once a year with some incense and a Miko somewhere nearby... and then ignore it the rest of the time.
Ahhh monotheism... nothing's likely to make you an atheist faster if you've got an inquisitive mind.
"Yeah, I'll have some Lakshmi and a side of aloo gobhi, and maybe some gulab jamun with a bit of Nataraja at the end."
Shinto's cool too. Animistic religions tend to be in general, but Shinto's philosophy on divine beings is just hilarious... If something's really impressive, it's probably got a divine spirit inside it, so wrap a nice velvet rope around it, pray to it once a year with some incense and a Miko somewhere nearby... and then ignore it the rest of the time.
Ahhh monotheism... nothing's likely to make you an atheist faster if you've got an inquisitive mind.
The same can be said for theist. Some of the world's most inquisitive minds were led to believe that creationism was the only option. (albert einstein, isaac newton)
A man/woman who doesn't question their birth religion is a sheep.
You can still celebrate your culture and turn your back on the religious part. Example: Christmas. My family still celebrates parts of it the tree, the presents. You may even find me in church on xmas eve. (Mostly cause I enjoy the candle light and the carols) but I would openly tell anyone who asked that I thought it was all a bunch of hooey.
Oh and that woman on the plane was a fucking moron. I'm hoping that was not a real story. Who the fuck has not heard of Hinduism?
To clarify, Einstein was not an atheist, nor religious, but agnostic. In his own words:
"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."
"I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth."
"I'm not an atheist. I don't think I can call myself a pantheist. The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. We are in the position of a little child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The child knows someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a mysterious order in the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the universe marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand these laws."
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Agnostics suspend judgment, saying that there are not sufficient grounds either for affirmation or for denial. At the same time, an Agnostic may hold that the existence of God is very probable although impossible to prove. After reading Einstein's works, I take he partially fell into the above category.
An agonostic may also find it very probable that theists are a bunch of morons, but alas, he cannot prove it.
true. I won't argue with that. BUT I do find it hard to believe for an agnostic who suspends judgment to be so judgmental.
And--as always when religion is debated--we've reached no conclusion, and even branched off to such things as a picture of Jesus kicking Satan's ass, a picture of Jessica Simpson, and even a mini discussion about the revolving ballerina dancer illusion...
I love religious debate...
I love religious debate...
ckclark121 said:
Indeed.
Who says agnostics suspend judgment? It takes precise judgment to decide whether something is rational or not.
In fact, in a sense, you are right that the religious are not judgmental. Instead, they follow orders mindlessly, repeating mantras they were taught by those who claim to speak in the place of God. So instead of making judgment themselves, they let other people make judgements for them.
It doesn't take a 'precise' judgement to decide whether something is rational. A better word to use would be 'wise.' Now..
An agnostic thinks it's impossible to know the truth in matters such as God and the future life with which religions are concerned. So an agnostic's objective, unbiased and most 'precise' opinion on whether creationism is a sensible/rational explanation for the beginnings of our universe must be suspended. UNLESS, in fact they truly are being biased. After all, none of us living can actually know until we're dead... right?
Please reread what I wrote. Not once did i say that the religious were not judgmental.
Too long, didn't read. However I find myself almost passionate about the topic of organized religion in our somewhat modern society.
Three points to take note of:
1. If I challenge your core beliefs, you will attack and discredit me as a source.
This is pretty basic stuff. Look it up in a book if you like.
2. Religious beliefs are probably the best way to teach the next generation what works and what doesn't. Well that was until the modern school system was in place.
3. I believe that in order to be happy and have a balance in life you need your finances, family life, health and spirituality sorted out.
Three points to take note of:
1. If I challenge your core beliefs, you will attack and discredit me as a source.
This is pretty basic stuff. Look it up in a book if you like.
2. Religious beliefs are probably the best way to teach the next generation what works and what doesn't. Well that was until the modern school system was in place.
3. I believe that in order to be happy and have a balance in life you need your finances, family life, health and spirituality sorted out.
Technically Allah is also the same God that Jews and Christians believe in too.
I'm an atheist, but if people want to have their religion, I have no problems with that whatsoever, no matter what the religion they choose.
I'm an atheist, but if people want to have their religion, I have no problems with that whatsoever, no matter what the religion they choose.
HarveyJ
He is - THE CACTUS!
Actually, that same god thing gets a little tricky. Whilst it should be the same god, logically speaking, there's a good rason why a lot of hardcore nutters insist it isn't.
A lot of people don't know it, and Muslims are loathe to admit it, but for a while there, Islam was actually duotheistic, with Allat as the female goddess. She was a pre-existing god in the area and kept to win over converts, similar to the way in which a lot of Catholicisms angels & saints are actually older European local gods (although some of the demons are gods from people that didn't convert easily).... But Allat made it kind of awkward when you get to commandment #1, so she quickly got slammed into the Kitab al-Asnam, or book of false gods.
What I don't get is how Catholics gel the first commandment with a god that is clearly not "one and only".
Atheism is its own religion.
All current life comes from other life. Which leads me to believe there is a designer that made everything with purpose and gave us the ability to choose and think.
When you open a jug of milk after its been pasteurized and find life. I will convert. Oh yeah and dont give me that same line "well after billions and billions of year" after billions of years Santa and his rain deer will came visit you too.
Side note - who is this evil person that writes 5000 word reply posts. Keep it short or I wont read it; some of us have work to do.
All current life comes from other life. Which leads me to believe there is a designer that made everything with purpose and gave us the ability to choose and think.
When you open a jug of milk after its been pasteurized and find life. I will convert. Oh yeah and dont give me that same line "well after billions and billions of year" after billions of years Santa and his rain deer will came visit you too.
Side note - who is this evil person that writes 5000 word reply posts. Keep it short or I wont read it; some of us have work to do.
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