Being Called a "Traitor" by Cheney is an Honor, Snowden Says

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In case you missed the Q+A hosted by the Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/17/edward-snowden-nsa-files-whistleblower

Journalists should ask a specific question: since these programs began operation shortly after September 11th, how many terrorist attacks were prevented SOLELY by information derived from this suspicionless surveillance that could not be gained via any other source? Then ask how many individual communications were ingested to acheive that, and ask yourself if it was worth it. Bathtub falls and police officers kill more Americans than terrorism, yet we've been asked to sacrifice our most sacred rights for fear of falling victim to it.
Further, it's important to bear in mind I'm being called a traitor by men like former Vice President Dick Cheney. This is a man who gave us the warrantless wiretapping scheme as a kind of atrocity warm-up on the way to deceitfully engineering a conflict that has killed over 4,400 and maimed nearly 32,000 Americans, as well as leaving over 100,000 Iraqis dead. Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give an American, and the more panicked talk we hear from people like him, Feinstein, and King, the better off we all are. If they had taught a class on how to be the kind of citizen Dick Cheney worries about, I would have finished high school.
 


don't we already have three of these threads already? There's a reason why a reply button exists.
 
The rep. system is broken. A single reputation from a highly reputable member can turn an entire orange bar completely red.
 
You're right, cpauser. Maybe it's time we stop discussing this issue.

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You're right, cpauser. Maybe it's time we stop discussing this issue.

Which celebs do you guys think will be on the fall season of Dancing With the Stars???

It is cpauser. Dismiss him.

For what it's worth, I've seen the other threads on Snowden. This is the one I chose to open because you started it. That's the power of reputation. :)

Regarding Snowden, I haven't kept up. I've seen unimpressive quotes from him. Something about democracy. Something about not wanting to live in a society that does what the NSA does. He seems like a guy who worships at the altar of government, but doesn't like what his current government is doing.

Is that your take on him?
 
Regarding Snowden, I haven't kept up. I've seen unimpressive quotes from him. Something about democracy. Something about not wanting to live in a society that does what the NSA does. He seems like a guy who worships at the altar of government, but doesn't like what his current government is doing.

Is that your take on him?

Absolutely, but anything that disrupts the evil machinery of the state or chips away at its perceived legitimacy is always of some interest to me.
 
It is cpauser. Dismiss him.

For what it's worth, I've seen the other threads on Snowden. This is the one I chose to open because you started it. That's the power of reputation. :)

Regarding Snowden, I haven't kept up. I've seen unimpressive quotes from him. Something about democracy. Something about not wanting to live in a society that does what the NSA does. He seems like a guy who worships at the altar of government, but doesn't like what his current government is doing.

Is that your take on him?

He believes in an absolute truth and any deviation has to be immediately remedied, at any cost to himself or society; forbearance is not an option.
 
just keeps thinking its a great place to swim.

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