Business plan...Boobs Included

SkyEnt

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I have someone that wants to invest in my aff marketing work, its a nice 50k so i can really use it. Obviously he wants a business plan, something showing exactly were all the money is going. But i am having some trouble with setting it up. Have you guys ever prepared a business plan? How would you structure it is what i am having trouble with. If you guys can help it would be a much appreciated.

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The important question here is... do you really need the 50k?

I know I wouldn't take it now because the nature of this business is such you can test a lot with low amounts of money. And if you haven't tested at low amounts and proven profitability you'll probably waste the 50k and never see that money again. And if you have tested and proven profitability - well in that case you don't need the 50k guy.

Also, having someone own a percentage of your creative output can be a big hit to daily motivation.

Just trying to make you think of the downsides of this.
 
It's tough to draw up a business plan for this type of deal. You can plan to scale, plan to test and plan to spend - but you can never plan to have a good idea or a moment of inspiration. And that's pretty much what it comes down to.

I'm guessing cash flow and wanting to scale fast is your main reason for being interested?

If that's the case, why not work out a deal where you'll come to him directly offering him a percentage of profits in return for his investment in campaigns that you've already setup and that are profiting for you? The risk for him is much lower, and it gives you the freedom to scale fast when you hit a good idea.
 
The important question here is... do you really need the 50k?

I know I wouldn't take it now because the nature of this business is such you can test a lot with low amounts of money. And if you haven't tested at low amounts and proven profitability you'll probably waste the 50k and never see that money again. And if you have tested and proven profitability - well in that case you don't need the 50k guy.

Also, having someone own a percentage of your creative output can be a big hit to daily motivation.

Just trying to make you think of the downsides of this.

^ this, and...

Take a look at good affiliate blogs and they'll suggest to build your capital/scale.

I think even though the 50k now sounds great, you'll probably regret giving up your profits when you're running smooth later.

Otherwise, http://lmgtfy.com/?q=business+plan+template
 
Having just turned 18 and having absolutely no credit history I am also in the process of writing a business plan so my bank can give me a good line of credit (I can't keep using my parents credit card forever). And I'm having the same issue Finch mentioned.

But I'm also trying to diversify into a lot of other more stable businesses and SEO projects so I'm trying to focus my business plan on that.
 
WTF?

Google that shit... there is tons of good resources out there on how to write a biz plan.

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The important question here is... do you really need the 50k?

I know I wouldn't take it now because the nature of this business is such you can test a lot with low amounts of money. And if you haven't tested at low amounts and proven profitability you'll probably waste the 50k and never see that money again. And if you have tested and proven profitability - well in that case you don't need the 50k guy.

Also, having someone own a percentage of your creative output can be a big hit to daily motivation.

Just trying to make you think of the downsides of this.

Agreed. I wouldn't do it unless it's just a personal loan or something (at which point you can get less).

Anyone who's done this for a while can run some small, niche campaigns and turn $500 into $2500.

But can you take $50k and turn it into $250k? That is a much bigger challenge because you need to find projects that are scaleable, and thus much bigger and more competitive.
 
Whoever it is is an idiot and doesn't understand what you do. If you take his money both of you will regret it.
 
Yeah, this doesn't sound like a good idea to me. I would possibly try to work out a smaller amount just to be safe.
 
I am new here but I was a dotcom CEO in 2000 and raised $7M from Hummer Winblad and Draper. It was in the B2B space. Since then I have helped out a number of friends with VC pitches and plans and been an Angel investor myself.

SkyEnt, there are some positive aspects you should know. First of all, put away your fear. He knows that it is an investment and they sometimes go down the tubes. If he has $50K to put towards your stuff it is a very big endorsement of your skills and execution abilities.

Your concerns and his will be put to rest if you both decide what the plan should be if the worst happens and it just doesn't make the bucks. Get that out of the way first. Then here is how to proceed:

1. Did you go to him, or vice versa? That's a biggie. In fact I hesistate to go a lot farther in this post until I know.

2. The business plan document is not really hip anymore. Mainly they are used to determine if the guy is a knuckle-dragging moron who can't spell or add numbers together. It is not a problem to ask him what specifically he wants to see. There are no standard templates. He is probably gonna ask for:

a. Financial pro forma or projections, also know as P & L. This is not as big a deal as it sounds. It's just a month by month spreadsheet with costs and anticipated returns, broken down as specifically as you want to. This is to give him some reasonable comfort that you know what to do with the money over X period, and you are working towards X return.

b. At least an executive summary (1-2 pages) saying here is what the business is gonna do, here's why it kicks ass, here's the shit you do that nobody else does, and here is what you expect to be able to return on the investment.

c. Investing in Aff is pretty unusual. I am gonna guess that he doesn't want an equity percentage of the company; just a portion of the proceeds. If I am wrong correct me.


3. You are a young dude but he knows that young dudes are way ahead of the curve of us old turds and that's where the talent is. You're not expected to be Elon Musk yet; you are great at what you do, so just stick with that. Finding you is obviously a great opportunity for him and you know shit that most people don't - so my point is, don't feel bad because you don't know about all this investment shit. None of us did when we were first-timers.

4. You need an attorney. He has one, but that's his attorney. Almost always, an attorney is also selected to represent the company. This can be done for a couple grand. This attorney is needed to review what his attorney comes up with and make sure you're not getting assreamed. If the investor is a friend, you won't get assreamed upfront, but later, when money starts coming in and you each think you should be getting more than you're supposed to.

5. Lastly you guys will have an awesome relationship, and he will be totally stoked - if you kill him with communication. Give him daily access to your stats, keep him up on your schemes and plans, and he will keep shoveling you more $.

Keep me posted on this...
 
I am new here but I was a dotcom CEO in 2000 and raised $7M from Hummer Winblad and Draper. It was in the B2B space. Since then I have helped out a number of friends with VC pitches and plans and been an Angel investor myself.

SkyEnt, there are some positive aspects you should know. First of all, put away your fear. He knows that it is an investment and they sometimes go down the tubes. If he has $50K to put towards your stuff it is a very big endorsement of your skills and execution abilities.

Your concerns and his will be put to rest if you both decide what the plan should be if the worst happens and it just doesn't make the bucks. Get that out of the way first. Then here is how to proceed:

1. Did you go to him, or vice versa? That's a biggie. In fact I hesistate to go a lot farther in this post until I know.

2. The business plan document is not really hip anymore. Mainly they are used to determine if the guy is a knuckle-dragging moron who can't spell or add numbers together. It is not a problem to ask him what specifically he wants to see. There are no standard templates. He is probably gonna ask for:

a. Financial pro forma or projections, also know as P & L. This is not as big a deal as it sounds. It's just a month by month spreadsheet with costs and anticipated returns, broken down as specifically as you want to. This is to give him some reasonable comfort that you know what to do with the money over X period, and you are working towards X return.

b. At least an executive summary (1-2 pages) saying here is what the business is gonna do, here's why it kicks ass, here's the shit you do that nobody else does, and here is what you expect to be able to return on the investment.

c. Investing in Aff is pretty unusual. I am gonna guess that he doesn't want an equity percentage of the company; just a portion of the proceeds. If I am wrong correct me.


3. You are a young dude but he knows that young dudes are way ahead of the curve of us old turds and that's where the talent is. You're not expected to be Elon Musk yet; you are great at what you do, so just stick with that. Finding you is obviously a great opportunity for him and you know shit that most people don't - so my point is, don't feel bad because you don't know about all this investment shit. None of us did when we were first-timers.

4. You need an attorney. He has one, but that's his attorney. Almost always, an attorney is also selected to represent the company. This can be done for a couple grand. This attorney is needed to review what his attorney comes up with and make sure you're not getting assreamed. If the investor is a friend, you won't get assreamed upfront, but later, when money starts coming in and you each think you should be getting more than you're supposed to.

5. Lastly you guys will have an awesome relationship, and he will be totally stoked - if you kill him with communication. Give him daily access to your stats, keep him up on your schemes and plans, and he will keep shoveling you more $.

Keep me posted on this...

I can't take you seriously with Man Boobs in my face.
 
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Send the guy your network logins and pw's, that's all the business plan you need in this scenario.

50K isn't enough money for you to spend 2 weeks (or more) composing a biz plan. Think of all the downtime from your AM day job you'll be wasting composing it. Your LOSSES from the composition alone will eat into the 50k to begin with.