Is it true that if you host on C class IP's you will get better ranking? I am currently using Godaddy and hate it! Numerous problems with the speed, 302 redirect, goes down a lot and gets hacked. Please let me know your thoughts and suggestions. Thank you!!!
C class IP's better ranking?
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Anytime you see someone mention "A Class", "B Class" or "C Class" in relation to SEO, you can be assured they are full of shit.
Usually, what someone is refers to that in an SEO context, they are trying to claim that if you buy links from their blog network, they have spread the links across blogs that are hosted with different providers. As opposed to putting all the blogs on one provider, and ending up with blogs on a network with IP addresses owned by the same entity. That's not a bad idea, but it's not really related to A/B/C classes, not directly anyhow.
For example, having 1 link from a "Class A", 1 from a "Class B" and one from a "Class C" IS NOT any better than 3 links from three different "Class C" networks.
And, in relation to your question, not sure what you mean. You probably ARE hosted on a "Class C". Did you mean to ask if it's beneficial to be hosted on an ip address that's dedicated as opposed to shared?
See this post if you want to know what the history of "IP Classes" is.
Usually, what someone is refers to that in an SEO context, they are trying to claim that if you buy links from their blog network, they have spread the links across blogs that are hosted with different providers. As opposed to putting all the blogs on one provider, and ending up with blogs on a network with IP addresses owned by the same entity. That's not a bad idea, but it's not really related to A/B/C classes, not directly anyhow.
For example, having 1 link from a "Class A", 1 from a "Class B" and one from a "Class C" IS NOT any better than 3 links from three different "Class C" networks.
And, in relation to your question, not sure what you mean. You probably ARE hosted on a "Class C". Did you mean to ask if it's beneficial to be hosted on an ip address that's dedicated as opposed to shared?
See this post if you want to know what the history of "IP Classes" is.
It does not affect ranking directly.
People are concerned that they have many sites, all hosted on shared hosting or the same dedicated server, and that if/when Google slaps them, they'll find and deindex all the sites they discover.
Some people believe that hiding ownership of a domain, splitting out the domain onto different web hosts or a single host with different IPs will protect them. The jury is still out on that. It's very subjective.
Mindful
People are concerned that they have many sites, all hosted on shared hosting or the same dedicated server, and that if/when Google slaps them, they'll find and deindex all the sites they discover.
Some people believe that hiding ownership of a domain, splitting out the domain onto different web hosts or a single host with different IPs will protect them. The jury is still out on that. It's very subjective.
Mindful
The way you are asking this question shows you are completely confused on the subject. "C Class IP's" is not a kind of ip and do not exist. Over a decade a ago Classes were used in ip terminology but have not in over 10 years.
From your original post looks like you have hosting issues which have nothing to do with an ip address.
I am not confused, I just have a little dilema, should I go with SEO Hosting - SEO Web Hosting with cPanel and Multiple Class C IP Addresses and spend some money or just dedicated IP with bluehost. This is my dilema.
SEO hosting is like renting a meth lab that says "meth lab" on the front door.
Go with your bluehost idea. ( or hostgator, or whatever DOESN'T say "SEO Hosting" on it )
Go with your bluehost idea. ( or hostgator, or whatever DOESN'T say "SEO Hosting" on it )
UM i will disagree with a whole number of things here.... YES it DOES make a huge difference to have on multiple X class (if its on a dif a or b it is by definition on a dif c class) A.B.C.D
why and when does it matter? if you have many - in my case hundreds - of sites in one niche - and you want to compete with yourself and take the top spots for money keywords you can rank for different sites of your own way way easier this way... i have ALOT of experience with this ...
yes it isnt as simple as the ips only - yes you have to have diversity in registrars, private DNS, private and dif whois, and though you can say that seohosting is a pile of rip off shit ... frankly having 400 shared hosting accounts to manage isnt something i could or would feasibly attempt... forget it. if you are building yourself a little network of like 20-30 sites then maybe... and yes it would be ideally better having at hostgator and a ton of other little shit accounts.
... and BTW you SHOULD be doing this - building a network and i dont mean hiring out or selling services on it - build it JUST FOR YOU.
IMHO with what has gone on in google lately and will continue to - and my personal experience of the benefits of having a private network JUST FOR ME ... those who play this way are going to have the competitive advantage to keep on top of things as seo gets harder and harder... i would NEVER EVER consider having just one money site, i always hedge things with multiple sites and it has saved my income.
I have about 100 pr sites aged domains etc. not necessarily on topic -- then about 250 in my direct niche and just bought 50 related aged (but not huge pr) contextually relevant domains as google wants to see relevancy site wide more and more....
In terms of hosting i use a bunch of seo hosts, i have about 6 vps and one dedicated server at 5 or 6 dif companies... and geo locations are scattered, each vps/ded has about 3-5 a/b clocks from which the c classes are on and almost all of my ~400 ips are dedicated and only run one single site.... as i DO interlink it intelligent ways to rank my shit and believe me it works extremely extremely well.....
... if you are looking to scale and compete seo hosting does have its place, expensive or not - and you have to learn what you are doing - but i have seen consistent excellent extraordinary benefits from having my network - especially now that it is managed with wpmothership (which kicks the shit out of anything else - i think in terms of my network not in terms of my site(s) now.... i can throw out ads across all of them in a second and in many ways, setup cloaking redirects and all maner of blackhat shit - i can autogen content, drip content, just getting started...
yes i pay about 1.7k a month in hosting and more for domain renewals and acquisitions etc.... but you gotta pay to play and it has literally grown my income by 7-10x since the fall...
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why and when does it matter? if you have many - in my case hundreds - of sites in one niche - and you want to compete with yourself and take the top spots for money keywords you can rank for different sites of your own way way easier this way... i have ALOT of experience with this ...
yes it isnt as simple as the ips only - yes you have to have diversity in registrars, private DNS, private and dif whois, and though you can say that seohosting is a pile of rip off shit ... frankly having 400 shared hosting accounts to manage isnt something i could or would feasibly attempt... forget it. if you are building yourself a little network of like 20-30 sites then maybe... and yes it would be ideally better having at hostgator and a ton of other little shit accounts.
... and BTW you SHOULD be doing this - building a network and i dont mean hiring out or selling services on it - build it JUST FOR YOU.
IMHO with what has gone on in google lately and will continue to - and my personal experience of the benefits of having a private network JUST FOR ME ... those who play this way are going to have the competitive advantage to keep on top of things as seo gets harder and harder... i would NEVER EVER consider having just one money site, i always hedge things with multiple sites and it has saved my income.
I have about 100 pr sites aged domains etc. not necessarily on topic -- then about 250 in my direct niche and just bought 50 related aged (but not huge pr) contextually relevant domains as google wants to see relevancy site wide more and more....
In terms of hosting i use a bunch of seo hosts, i have about 6 vps and one dedicated server at 5 or 6 dif companies... and geo locations are scattered, each vps/ded has about 3-5 a/b clocks from which the c classes are on and almost all of my ~400 ips are dedicated and only run one single site.... as i DO interlink it intelligent ways to rank my shit and believe me it works extremely extremely well.....
... if you are looking to scale and compete seo hosting does have its place, expensive or not - and you have to learn what you are doing - but i have seen consistent excellent extraordinary benefits from having my network - especially now that it is managed with wpmothership (which kicks the shit out of anything else - i think in terms of my network not in terms of my site(s) now.... i can throw out ads across all of them in a second and in many ways, setup cloaking redirects and all maner of blackhat shit - i can autogen content, drip content, just getting started...
yes i pay about 1.7k a month in hosting and more for domain renewals and acquisitions etc.... but you gotta pay to play and it has literally grown my income by 7-10x since the fall...
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OP has 1 site, so none of this really matters. However.
I agree that if you have interlinked sites, a blog network, etc, that you don't want them sharing ip space. However, A/B/C/D doesn't really matter, what matters is "distance of netblock ownership".
Take 4 ip's as an example.
9.1.2.3 ( Class A, IBM Owns It)
128.1.2.3 ( Class B, BBN Owns It)
199.1.2.3 ( Class C, Sprint Owns It)
204.1.2.3 ( Class C, NTT Owns It)
If you had 2 blogs, and wanted to put distance between them, does it matter which of the 2 networks above you pick? Nope. Picking the two "Class C's" is just as good as any other choice. Different networks, different owners, different geographic and network locations.
And, I don't want to bother with explaining the deeper example of CIDR versus classes, but it's also possible to find 2 networks you might call "Class C" networks that are very close in number, but far apart in geography and ownership. In fact, my example above is somewhat flawed, as block ownership doesn't have to fall on the old-style A/B/C boundaries.
This is why all the "Class A/B/C" stuff bugs the shit out of me. It's not accurate anymore. CIDR replaced IP classes in 1993.
^^ totally agree on the DNS which I make sure to set up private for every site...
whether or not I am actually benefiting in rankings from the ip diversity i have or not frankly, and whether i've bought into the 'snake oil' - frankly i dont really care at this point as I am seeing crazy good results (i just for instance posted out a hyper but well readable chunked - ie. ubercubez style - post for backlinks / ranking of my money site to about 75 of my network sites many of which are totally off topic but some are on... beside the point... not only did it hit my rankings goal for the money site but i noticed pages 2-3-4-5 are littered almost comically one after the next with the backlink posts themselves - i do chalk that up to penguin alot as though a very competitive space many many of my competitors were hit bad with penguin... and none of those 'ranking posts' have had any backlinks at all to them at this point... )
... and as i DO run things like centrally controlled popups - like a personal PPV network almost ... those other posts are getting clicks and making sales too.
whether or not all that would happen if i didnt have things setup as i do i dont know but i am happy to pay the cost to have it this way as frankly its tiny compared with the money i generate from it...
if there is a better way to do it (and @rish3 I am gonna look into fully understanding the points you make - i get basically what you are saying about "distance of netblock ownership". and CIDR....
this is one reason i do have things split between different seo hosting providers and multiple vps setups etc... rather than all on say one big one. i figure its better to have ~25-50 ips from one company (and some resell for others so its good to research that of course) on a vps and 25-50 on a totally other, rather than 100 on one - even if its costing me more to do it this way....
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whether or not I am actually benefiting in rankings from the ip diversity i have or not frankly, and whether i've bought into the 'snake oil' - frankly i dont really care at this point as I am seeing crazy good results (i just for instance posted out a hyper but well readable chunked - ie. ubercubez style - post for backlinks / ranking of my money site to about 75 of my network sites many of which are totally off topic but some are on... beside the point... not only did it hit my rankings goal for the money site but i noticed pages 2-3-4-5 are littered almost comically one after the next with the backlink posts themselves - i do chalk that up to penguin alot as though a very competitive space many many of my competitors were hit bad with penguin... and none of those 'ranking posts' have had any backlinks at all to them at this point... )
... and as i DO run things like centrally controlled popups - like a personal PPV network almost ... those other posts are getting clicks and making sales too.
whether or not all that would happen if i didnt have things setup as i do i dont know but i am happy to pay the cost to have it this way as frankly its tiny compared with the money i generate from it...
if there is a better way to do it (and @rish3 I am gonna look into fully understanding the points you make - i get basically what you are saying about "distance of netblock ownership". and CIDR....
this is one reason i do have things split between different seo hosting providers and multiple vps setups etc... rather than all on say one big one. i figure its better to have ~25-50 ips from one company (and some resell for others so its good to research that of course) on a vps and 25-50 on a totally other, rather than 100 on one - even if its costing me more to do it this way....
UNAGI+
... and on this original question - disregarding the whole ip class topic - why the fuck are you using godaddy hosting !?
they are (never experienced myself) but known for being about the worst goddamn host provider ever! get a hostgator or something.
It doesn't make a difference at all. But do remember to get a dedicated IP (It can be any Class.) for your website because that does help you to rank better.
... and on this original question - disregarding the whole ip class topic - why the fuck are you using godaddy hosting !?
they are (never experienced myself) but known for being about the worst goddamn host provider ever! get a hostgator or something.
yeah don't use godaddy as hosting, use hawkhost or other
i needed some more ded ips... and got yet another (yes seo hosting 
but from a different provider than the others i use... and as i have mostly US based i got a spread of 50 dif. EU ones ... i assume it will make those sites a little less easy to rank for google.com probably - not sure... but will be using just for my link network sites...
but from a different provider than the others i use... and as i have mostly US based i got a spread of 50 dif. EU ones ... i assume it will make those sites a little less easy to rank for google.com probably - not sure... but will be using just for my link network sites...
@ameripro
glad to hear you are getting off godaddy...
i have been with seowebhosting.net the longest of the ones i use - and for a while there a year and a half ago they had lots of probs... i had downtime etc. but support was good and i could tell they were getting there - i am glad i stuck with them as they have been awesome the last 6-8 months - 24 hr support always gets back to me super quick if I need anything, and very little probs on my dedi there ... (i have a very nice grandfathered in pricing too for my ips there, way less then current prices
i fucking wish i didnt have so many domains regged at godaddy - i dont trust the fuckers (they only backed down on being against SOPA when tons of people started moving off them), trying when possible to get at various others - namecheap, dynadot, moniker, enom etc - of course should reg at bunch of places anyway.
but too many good chances to grab nice domains with godaddy auctions - i DO buy drops personally if i research them enough and they have a solid profile as usually you can get pr/trust back again with a bit of work IF they have a solid trustworthy backlink profile....
ahrefs is totally not giving me up to date info as they should be - been bugging the hell out of me, its weird. but i have majestic sub as well and they are awesome these days, made some nice improvements - the new trust metrics are very very useful i have found in judging whether domains are gonna provide the kind of links google will like.... and found also many domains that are not high pr but in actuality end up being way better (and cheaper) than many pr3, 4, 5
glad to hear you are getting off godaddy...
i have been with seowebhosting.net the longest of the ones i use - and for a while there a year and a half ago they had lots of probs... i had downtime etc. but support was good and i could tell they were getting there - i am glad i stuck with them as they have been awesome the last 6-8 months - 24 hr support always gets back to me super quick if I need anything, and very little probs on my dedi there ... (i have a very nice grandfathered in pricing too for my ips there, way less then current prices
i fucking wish i didnt have so many domains regged at godaddy - i dont trust the fuckers (they only backed down on being against SOPA when tons of people started moving off them), trying when possible to get at various others - namecheap, dynadot, moniker, enom etc - of course should reg at bunch of places anyway.
but too many good chances to grab nice domains with godaddy auctions - i DO buy drops personally if i research them enough and they have a solid profile as usually you can get pr/trust back again with a bit of work IF they have a solid trustworthy backlink profile....
ahrefs is totally not giving me up to date info as they should be - been bugging the hell out of me, its weird. but i have majestic sub as well and they are awesome these days, made some nice improvements - the new trust metrics are very very useful i have found in judging whether domains are gonna provide the kind of links google will like.... and found also many domains that are not high pr but in actuality end up being way better (and cheaper) than many pr3, 4, 5
SEO hosting does nothing but protects your blogs to an extent. Hosting through different profile of IPs does help a great deal! However, there are other factors that you must consider. Leaving silly footprints all over won't help your network escape the penalty.
(diff whois, diff rdns, diff nameservers, diff platforms across all sites (not wordpress across all, or joomla across all..etc. use a mix), random registration dates, mix of domain registrars)...everything should be taken into account!
Many n00bs don't take most of the stuff into account, anyone with half a brain could look at a network and tell it's going to get penalized if all whois details across all domains are same, etc. After losing their rankings, they go around blaming SEO hosting for it. Well, guess what n00bs, SEO hosting does nothing to improve your rankings!, it just makes sure you won't lose them provided you do everything else right.
Have you tried SEOhost.com?
(diff whois, diff rdns, diff nameservers, diff platforms across all sites (not wordpress across all, or joomla across all..etc. use a mix), random registration dates, mix of domain registrars)...everything should be taken into account!
Many n00bs don't take most of the stuff into account, anyone with half a brain could look at a network and tell it's going to get penalized if all whois details across all domains are same, etc. After losing their rankings, they go around blaming SEO hosting for it. Well, guess what n00bs, SEO hosting does nothing to improve your rankings!, it just makes sure you won't lose them provided you do everything else right.
Have you tried SEOhost.com?