California Wants Me to Pay Taxes




"A U.S. citizen will continue to be treated as a U.S. resident during a period overseas. This generally will also apply to Green card holders."

And that is exactly the reason why I have no intentions of ever getting a Green Card. Getting tracked down for the rest of my life because I lived in the US for a few years just doesn't sound all that great to me.
 
This sounds like bullshit to me. California is hard up for cash and is scraping the barrel. You're selling a product to them which is leads and since Cali hasn't passed the silly affiliate taxes yet I don't see them being able to collect taxes on this product sold over the internet. Though it sounds like you're running as a sole proprietorship or just under your name in which case they'll 1099 you which is typically for contract or consultant employees. If you were a corporation and provided invoices to them I believe you wouldn't need to be sent a 1099 and you'd have a stronger case that this isn't whats happening.

Of course you should talk to a professional and not listen to retards on a forum though.
 
This is just amazing I can't even believe I am even reading this. How can this be happening in the our country, just rediculous. Although it is Cali so I guess if something like this were to happen it would be there. Only other thing I can say is LEARN TO SWIM Cali!
 
actually according to that he could be a "multimedia business" and pay $1 for every $1000.

That's doubtful. The multimedia bussiness is more inline for the TV, movie and music industry.

I called the LA city of finance last year to figure out which category I belong to and they said all marketing, consulting and also web design professions would fall under the professions and occupations category.
 
paying taxes mean you are making money.

yeah cali sucks, but isn't it better to pay taxes from making money than not paying taxes from making $ 0?

of course you can skirt the law, skimp or whatever but do you really want to have the IRS crawl up your ass and have a look around?
 
You just need a better accountant. I live in california and don't put up with half the crap they try out here.
 
Yea, if your CPA doesn't know the tax laws/codes of all 50 states and Guam, dump their ass, I mean seriously, what else do they have to do aside from keeping up with laws that change yearly coming in from over 1000 miles away....

I guess I'd expect a CPA to know that when you get a 1099 from a state other then yours you have to look up tax codes of that state to know how to do the taxes properly, not wait until a notice comes in the mail from California reminding them. They don't have to know everything, but they should know enough to know when they need to look something up. And do it before a notice from the state comes to point it out.

If the notice hadn't come he would have been paying a CPA to do his taxes incorrectly. So the question is, do you expect a CPA you hire to be able to do your taxes correctly? I do.

Another laughable thing about this is if you did your taxes using TurboTax it would catch this rather common business tax issue.
 
Just to let people know, this isn't just a California law or something. This same law applies to most states....

Doesn't anyone find this to be a taxation without representation thing? Sure, the people who paid you are out of California, they pay taxes, because they directly benefit from them. You, being a non-citizen of that state, do not benefit in the slightest from your income being taxed, and as such, I feel you shouldn't have to pay a dime. You didn't "earn an income" you were paid for a product, in this case leads and clicks. Fuck the People Republic of California.

Have you ever heard of a tariff? Taxing a foreign agent that's making a profit by selling to your residents.


These taxes are a problem because of how business is done in an industry like this. Paying a tax to sell to California residents if you are in another state makes sense for a business with some sort of physical product. A business is willing to put up with it to make a profit it couldn't otherwise make. But when it's a business in California that isn't even selling something to California residents and has no actual benefit to being in California other then that's where the business owners/employees live it will force businesses out of the state and cause a problem.

I know when I look at my taxes I envision a future where I live in Florida and only do business with networks in a few states and those out of the US.
 
Please for your own good don't take legal or Tax advice from Wickedfire. Talk to a few tax attorneys and CPA before making any decisions. Common sense does apply in this Manner.
 
I know when I look at my taxes I envision a future where I live in Florida and only do business with networks in a few states and those out of the US.
You don't need to move to Florida. Hopefully you're moving for other reasons.

If you live in Cali, work from home, and have a "virtual" company just set-up a Nevada corp (or anywhere other than Cali really). With a few minor precautions there is no way they can prove you "did business" in Cali. Actually you'll never even show up on their radar so it's a moot point.

If you are selling berries or some other physical product and have customers in Cali then at most you'll have to pay tax on this income, but if you're doing lead gen or aff marketing just don't work with any networks in Cali and don't worry about it.

Obviously if you have a "real" office with employees in Cali this won't work ...
 
The other thing is that your corp really shouldn't have any profits to tax anyway (which is what Cali taxes on). Your profits should be removed from your corp via payroll, dividends, etc. Essentially your net profits should be close to 0, which means Cali gets the same.

Having a corp in Cali is actually better than having one in somewhere like Texas for example, because some states like Texas make you pay a bullshit tax based on GROSS revenues and not profits. For example if you have a Texas corp and have revenues of 10 million and expenses of 10 million, technically you made no money. But you'd still have to pay a big fat tax bill to Texas. Total bullshit.

If you have an s corp or llc then obviously none of this matters because your entity has no profits or losses as everything passes through ...
 
That's weird that you say that because, I work out of Indiana but live in Illinois, and I just got a letter from Illinois saying I owe them a lot of money. Going to take it to my accountant to see what's up.
 
So even if you moved to the mountains of uzbekistan, you'll still get taxed as an American? For what? You're paying for a country/society you're no longer part of? That's outrageous.

Feel for you guys. Really do.