Clicking A Link = Hacking - Proposal by Obama

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Clicking a link will now be considered hacking - and possibly participating in racketeering. Good luck bros...

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In next week’s State of the Union address, President Obama will propose new laws against hacking that could make either retweeting or clicking on the above link illegal. The new laws make it a felony to intentionally access unauthorized information even if it’s been posted to a public website. The new laws make it a felony to traffic in information like passwords, where “trafficking” includes posting a link.

Even if you don’t do any of this, you can still be guilty if you hang around with people who do. Obama proposes upgrading hacking to a “racketeering” offense, means you can be guilty of being a hacker by simply acting like a hacker (without otherwise committing a specific crime).

Hanging out in an IRC chat room giving advice to people now makes you a member of a “criminal enterprise”, allowing the FBI to sweep in and confiscate all your assets without charging you with a crime. If you innocently clicked on the link above, and think you can defend yourself in court, prosecutors can still use the 20-year sentence of a racketeering charge in order to force you to plea bargain down to a 1-year sentence for hacking. (Civil libertarians hate the police-state nature of racketeering laws).

Internet innovation happens by trying things first then asking for permission later. Obama’s law will change that. For example, a search engine like Google downloads a copy of every website in order to create a search “index”. This sort of thing is grandfathered in, but if “copying the entire website” were a new idea, it would be something made illegal by the new laws. Such copies knowingly get information that website owners don’t intend to make public. Similarly, had hacking laws been around in the 1980s, the founders of Apple might’ve still been in jail today, serving out long sentences for trafficking in illegal access devices.

The most important innovators this law would affect are the cybersecurity professionals that protect the Internet. If you cared about things such as “national security” and “cyberterrorism”, then this should be your biggest fear. Because of our knowledge, we do innocent things that look to outsiders like “hacking”. Protecting computers often means attacking them. The more you crack down on hackers, the more of a chilling effect you create in our profession. This creates an open-door for nation-state hackers and the real cybercriminals.

Along with its Hacking Prohibition law, Obama is also proposing a massive Internet Surveillance law. Companies currently monitor their networks, using cybersecurity products like firewalls, IPSs, and anti-virus. Obama wants to strong-arm companies into sharing that information with the government, creating a virtualized or “cloud” surveillance system.

Sauce: President Obama Is Waging a War on Hackers | WIRED

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Haha the government is one of the most predictable institutions on the planet.
 
He can propose all he wants, it will never become law. But they just might pass a version of it to use just like the PATRIOT ACT. Most likely this will be done in secret.

Most Americans are not even aware what is included in the Patriot act passed after the so called 911 false flag attack.
 
racketeering

The ever growing unforeseen consequences of excessive legislation. When they passed the "racketeering" laws they wanted to lockup "Mobsters". Not some kid in his moms basement.

This is a prime example of why you don't grant the government "exceptions" to prosecute the law. They always go far beyond the laws intended purpose. Pushing that line, pushing, and pushing, until they can lock you up.
 
This shit only serves to increase the US prison population with innocent people under the CFAA, not stop or curb cyber crime. Most cyber crime rings operate internationally.

Get raided because you were in an IRC room and someone talked about something illegal or posted a link with illegal content? FUCK OFF. What a joke.

If this really passed it would only increase the number people using ways to stay anonymous online (VPNs, BNCs, tor network, etc.) and only catch the low hanging fruits.

We need to hire people from TECH companies to rewrite the CFAA so its not as vague.
 
isnt Obama a lame duck? Realistically this should have no chance of passing. But they are really pushing this "extremist" agenda so who knows.
 
If this really passed it would only increase the number people using ways to stay anonymous online (VPNs, BNCs, tor network, etc.) and only catch the low hanging fruits.

Canada just passed some shit where ISPs have to store your information even for VPNs for 6 months so they can identify you if they get a copyright notice...

I'm sure it's only a matter of time before it's near impossible to be anonymous online.
 
isnt Obama a lame duck? Realistically this should have no chance of passing. But they are really pushing this "extremist" agenda so who knows.

Is this like his version of our PM Cameron plan to "ban end-to-end encryption" ?

Good luck with those ideas chaps.


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Is this like his version of our PM Cameron plan to "ban end-to-end encryption" ?

Good luck with those ideas chaps.


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Well they shared a stage together today, so probably not to far off. I cant even fathom them banning end to end encryption. It puts the whole internet in jeopardy. And not just the internet. It puts everyone in jeopardy. Those are some of the most dangerous ideas I have heard in my lifetime.
 
hello freinds,

Obama tracking links but what need to do is prosper202 mod for rotate cloaking links.

- Rajesh your pal
 
Is this like his version of our PM Cameron plan to "ban end-to-end encryption" ?

Good luck with those ideas chaps.

What? So Cameron wants to make using encryption illegal? So if I was in the UK, it would be illegal for me to send a PGP e-mail?

Send a PGP encrypted e-mail containing sensitive server passwords to a client, and in return, have a SWAT team raid me. That sounds fun.

Why don't these people think, before they come up with such retarded ideas. Do you have any idea how much that would weaken online operations nationwide? It's like opening the door, and rolling out the red carpet to Russian and Chinese hackers -- "yes, please come on in and fuck with our systems and sensitive data. everything is now in plain text for you guys, so feel free to help yourself".
 
What? So Cameron wants to make using encryption illegal? So if I was in the UK, it would be illegal for me to send a PGP e-mail?

Send a PGP encrypted e-mail containing sensitive server passwords to a client, and in return, have a SWAT team raid me. That sounds fun.

Why don't these people think, before they come up with such retarded ideas. Do you have any idea how much that would weaken online operations nationwide? It's like opening the door, and rolling out the red carpet to Russian and Chinese hackers -- "yes, please come on in and fuck with our systems and sensitive data. everything is now in plain text for you guys, so feel free to help yourself".

Politicians aren't in the business of coming up with sensible solutions.

Even if they wanted to, it's very unlikely they'd succeed at their goal.
 
This is the kind of bill they hype up with no intention of trying to pass it simply because they want to scare the public into passing a lesser-insane bill.

Good think CISPA is no longer being pushed... Oh wait.