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irideflatland

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So I'm promoting a CPS offer on Commission Junction.

I point my adwords ads to my domain that has a JavaScript redirect to the advertiser's store.

HOWEVER, the redirect just takes them to the store's homepage. I want to be able to send them to certain departments of the store, to make my campaigns more targetted.


I have emailed the Advertiser twice, but I never get a reply.

Is there a way to iframe one of the CJ links on my landing page, and then redirect to whatever page I pick? I'm not sure how long it takes for the cookie to set or whatever.
 


SEO_Mike said:
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<iframe src="your-link" width="1" height="1" />
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How long should I let the page load for the cookie to set?
I usually set the javascript redirect first thing in the body. If I put it right after the iframe, will the cookie set or do I need to delay the redirect?

Also, will the iframe affect my QS?
 
Don't know about QS or anything, but just make your page a frameset. Make the main content take up 100% and only redirect that part. Meanwhile the cookie can be loading in the invisible frame.
 
P.S. I know you have good intentions, but if you get caught doing this the advertiser probably won't like it. And they will obviously see it if you linked them to your site in your requests (unless you're cloaking).
 
CJ will ban you real quick for things like this. SEO wise it will kill your rankings as well. I would only use this thing for large cheap traffic buys to just try to cookie as many people as possible with large places like netflix, gamefly, amazon, tigerdirect, etc depending on niche.
 
If you're trying to deep-link to an individual page, find a link that has URL Redirection enabled (if you pull a link from the product catalog, that will work - the urls will have the form http://www.lafhafdga .com/click-pid-aid?url=http://www.bestbuy.com/deeplink). If URL redirection isn't enabled, there's no guarantee that adding ?url= on to the end of your URL will track properly.

I wouldn't suggest the iframing method - You will get kicked from CJ very quickly. If the merchant won't respond, contact CJ by phone or through the Contact Us link in the upper right corner of your CJ interface. If you post the advertiser (or PM me), I'll see what additional contact info I can get. I'm a CJ performer, and used to be on the advertiser end of things with a number of CJ advertisers, so I might have some contacts that can help.
 
this can be done- however it's tricky- CJ monitors quite a bit and has decent internal tools so you'll need to be smart about it.

If you're going to embark you're going to want to consider doing it via a un-suspicious image call (say a background image shadow/spacer in the code), and then via apache re-writing this image to the pixel. You're going to want to re-write ONLY from another site of yours, and this domain needs to have a relevant site up (thus when it shows up as a referrer and a human were to look at it it would be believable). You're then going to need to point your adwords destination links to this other site of yours and then meta refresh to the page you're trying to get to.

You're also going to need to test it to ensure the advertiser isn't doing something sneaky with traffic that comes in not through a CJ link and scrubs the referrer.

However- iframing will not work, you'll be banned quickly. Apache is your friend though this is probably not at all worth your while.

Note- this information is a) likely technically challenged <the framework should work, I may have fucked something up>, AND b) is assuming nothing has changed in the last 24 months.
 
johu said:
If you're trying to deep-link to an individual page, find a link that has URL Redirection enabled (if you pull a link from the product catalog, that will work - the urls will have the form http://www.lafhafdga .com/click-pid-aid?url=http://www.bestbuy.com/deeplink). If URL redirection isn't enabled, there's no guarantee that adding ?url= on to the end of your URL will track properly.
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I've been trying to get this to work, but the site's url structure is so fucked up I can't seem to figure it out.
 
irideflatland said:
I've been trying to get this to work, but the site's url structure is so fucked up I can't seem to figure it out.
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Did you find a link that has URL redirection enabled within CJ? If so, just copy the whole URL of the destination page you want to direct to from your browser straight into the ?url= part of the link.

If there's any specific issues, let me know what errors you see, if any. The last thing I'd want to see is a legit affiliate get kicked from CJ for trying to deep-link, but making it look like fraudulent cookie stuffing. Their network quality dept. can be tough at times.
 
Just wanted to add that i-framing depends on the merchant. I know of affiliates on CJ that have used i-framing without the merchants permission, and when the merchants have found out they've let it go and actually carry on.

Where i-framing should hurt you (if you have minimal other on-page content) is your quality score, but again I've seen aff sites somehow rank top of the Adwords results with nothing but an iframe. They don't seem to be cloaking (checking Google cache, etc) so no idea how they're doing it.
 
johu said:
Did you find a link that has URL redirection enabled within CJ? If so, just copy the whole URL of the destination page you want to direct to from your browser straight into the ?url= part of the link.

If there's any specific issues, let me know what errors you see, if any. The last thing I'd want to see is a legit affiliate get kicked from CJ for trying to deep-link, but making it look like fraudulent cookie stuffing. Their network quality dept. can be tough at times.
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Ok I just tried it again and it worked. I don't know what I was doing wrong before.

Thanks
 
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