Cool podcast interview with our very own @eliquid of SerpWoo



Thanks for posting Eskil.

Hope some of you guys learn something. I posted some blackhat stuff and some legit stuff as well afterward. Tried to hit many different people in this podcast.

Topics included stuff such as:

1. Cloaking and how to actually cloak/lessen bans.
2. Getting new accounts and step by step how to do it.
3. Odd quirks in the Facebook system and how to brute force ads to be successful.
4. Split testing and why the way most people do it is stupid.
5. ?????
6. Profit.
 
eliquid is probably one of the most helpful members on WF. Learned alot of good stuff from him.
 
The email > audience was a great take away. As to was the view on split testing. Can't believe 56k modem route had to be taken, I know my ISP offers dynamic addresses.

Great interview.
 
Amazing stuff, thanks guys! The Facebook ads cloning is a great tip. I usually have zero interest for podcasts but listened to the whole thing yesterday, learned a shit ton and earned a shit ton of Bejeweled points as well, quality time. +rep to both.
 
Decent FB information and overall good listen but why the fuck would you talk about all this publicly?

You just confessed that you run ads that are not allowed on Facebook and how you schemed FB making it all happen, with your own name attached to it?

I'm no lawyer nor am I ignorant enough to think FB does not know about most of this but what the fuck man?
 
I never scammed Facebook.

All my bills were paid. The name on the cards doesn't matter at the end of the day. All the cards tied back to me if Facebook wanted to come after me if I had done any wrong doing.

Mind you, this was before Facebook had agency or "business" accounts which would have been the same thing if they had them when I did this ( allowing me more than 1 account for growth reasons ). They also never allowed higher than $30k a day spending until long after I did this. They also didn't offer invoicing either back then which would have solved this. This was simply a way for me to gain more accounts and spend more money with them, not scam them out of money.

Later on, I had my Facebook rep actually merge these accounts for me, if something was "wrong", why wouldn't they have pointed it out when I merged some of the accounts under 1 login back in the day?

Even though the cards had other names, Facebook was paid what they billed me. I didn't pull a Martin. I am not advocating that people NOT pay Facebook. I just told them my story of how I was able to scale my accounts while still paying everything due.

I wanted to have employees back in the day and had planned on it, it just never came to that point for me.

Cloaking is a whole other story. On one hand I want my LPs to show information to the right customers ( like if I am promoting a payday loan offer to someone in Kentucky, I might want my LP to welcome those visitors from "Kentucky" while blocking customers outside the state who won't turn into a lead ).

The problem with Facebook was they didn't have a standard way of approving ads. Legitimate ads would get denied while non-legit ads would get approved. There was no way to get good ads approved many times with their system while they let certain advertisers run wild with anything. A lot of times it came down to waiting on a shift change at Facebook to get someone else to approve the denied ad I just got. Sometimes it was about submitting 100's of legit ads at once and sneaking in a non-legit ad in the middle of the submission hoping it didn't get caught. It was a hug cluster fuck of a mess on their side. Cloaking seemed like a way to ensure the right ads got approved while also ensuring that if my domain lapsed or a tracking URL went down I didn't get handed a ban for promoting something that wasn't on the same URL ( which did happen to me a few times ).

Also, when Power Editor was a beta tool, I was a beta tester for it. It was told me to me from my rep at this time that I could upload ads via the Power Editor tool and they would immediately go Live without the need for approval so I would need to check with her before uploading ads. Do you think I really did this? They left a huge massive hole open for people to bypass their approval system and upload non-legit ads with that beta program. I never took advantage of it like I prob. should have, but my rep caught me several times with non-legit ads and never really seemed to care back then. She gave me a slap on the wrist and looked the other way. I still got a few accounts banned overall though.

I no longer run multiple accounts with Facebook and I haven't ran cloaked accounts with them for a considerable amount of time. It's just not worth it honestly these days to run cloaked or have multiple accounts when you realize how powerful of a platform it really is.

In the end, making this public will more than likely let BoA rework how they distribute debit and credit cards and Facebook will for sure more than likely fix the hole they have in approving new accounts. They might also fix the hole they have in those that cloak their ads. It will more than likely be a win-win for them.

Facebook was not scammed of any money in the process.
 
"Hmmm, that's really interesting..."

YEAH.

Very nice podcast though, enjoyed listening to it eliquid.
 
so hard to hear that voice and not see this face.

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