Damn you guerilla, damn you
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Here are a couple gems from today. I've wanted to called them a "good little statist" too many times to count...but that's just way too guerilla for me.
Gregory Janese
Again ,Paul, Please go find an anarchist country with the opportunity that America affords you and live there if you are so against help the "state" Because the "state" is what has allowed you to get an education, get food, get clean water, keep you safe. You damn well better care about helping the state, considering its been responsible for you being here today. You cant sit here and preach "ME ME ME" and helping yourself, when that very chance to help yourself, was given to you by somebody else
Gregory Janese
Oh, so people should be able to live in this country, drink its clean water, send their kids to school, be protected by the police, use our dollar, go to our parks......for free? Last time I checked, thats THEFT. You want to live in America, you pay to live here. Its called taxes. Get over it, get over yourself. You want to live in the best place on Earth, and keep it the best place on Earth, it costs some money. Like everything else in life.
Patty Woolnough
"i would like the right to choose to pay where i send my children to school, where i drink my water, and who i have protect me." You do its called property tax or send them to private school?, You can drink water from the river, lakes, faucet, hose, make your own well. And if you dont wanna pay police to protect you I hope you have a good job because personal security is not cheap. sooo how did any of what you said make sense?
Gregory Janese
Again ,Paul, Please go find an anarchist country with the opportunity that America affords you and live there if you are so against help the "state" Because the "state" is what has allowed you to get an education, get food, get clean water, keep you safe. You damn well better care about helping the state, considering its been responsible for you being here today. You cant sit here and preach "ME ME ME" and helping yourself, when that very chance to help yourself, was given to you by somebody else
Gregory Janese
Oh, so people should be able to live in this country, drink its clean water, send their kids to school, be protected by the police, use our dollar, go to our parks......for free? Last time I checked, thats THEFT. You want to live in America, you pay to live here. Its called taxes. Get over it, get over yourself. You want to live in the best place on Earth, and keep it the best place on Earth, it costs some money. Like everything else in life.
Patty Woolnough
"i would like the right to choose to pay where i send my children to school, where i drink my water, and who i have protect me." You do its called property tax or send them to private school?, You can drink water from the river, lakes, faucet, hose, make your own well. And if you dont wanna pay police to protect you I hope you have a good job because personal security is not cheap. sooo how did any of what you said make sense?
I personally wouldn't bother arguing with these people. If I had to guess, they're way too far gone to be "saved."
If you can't resist, come at it from a morality standpoint. Assuming you can get them to acknowledge that taxes are involuntary and violent, which is no easy feat, then you MAY be able to have a rational debate.
There is one simple argument for anarchy.
Voluntary relationships.
When people challenge you about anarchy, the answer is, "I support people engaging in peaceful voluntary relationships."
If they want to stake out a position which opposes peaceful voluntary relationships, that's ok. They have made their stance obvious. They prefer force and are now being honest about it.
You'll come to realize that a lot of people either don't recognize, or won't own up to the violence inherent in their solutions. I am not sure that is a situation that can be "solved" through argumentation.
Voluntary relationships.
When people challenge you about anarchy, the answer is, "I support people engaging in peaceful voluntary relationships."
If they want to stake out a position which opposes peaceful voluntary relationships, that's ok. They have made their stance obvious. They prefer force and are now being honest about it.
You'll come to realize that a lot of people either don't recognize, or won't own up to the violence inherent in their solutions. I am not sure that is a situation that can be "solved" through argumentation.
Sounds like if this is a problem, then there is a market need for security.
Great opportunity for an entrepreneur.
12. “The Role of Subscription-Based Patrol and Restitution in the Future of Liberty” at Libertarian Papers
Did you read Machinery of Freedom?
We have private companies at war all over the place. And who makes the tanks/planes/bombs? Private companies.
Also, since there's no power grab the incentive for military violence is greatly diminished.
And VS. tanks trenches can go a long way.
Stefan Molyneux makes a good argument for why this won't happen.
http://media.freedomainradio.com/feed/FDR_1507_Defense_DROs.mp3
If they are typical bleeding heart types, ask them why they don't want to return to something more like before the white man took over and show them the pic below.
US government has mostly been old white guys telling everyone else what to do. They don't want those types telling a women she can't have an abortion, so why don't they also want a woman to have the freedom of choice when it comes to how she spends her money, etc.
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