Dead in sleep? Scares the shit out of me

Does anyone have a view on this

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MfpPGrnfKw]Fear of Deep Sleep & Death ~ Mooji - YouTube[/ame]

I'm too stupid to understand it
 


I had something go wrong with my heart. (now have defibrillator...and take propanolol.) ....I was lucky I wasn't sleeping (actually was about to go take a nap away from others before it happened).

Happened when I was 27. Doctors ended up determining I had "long q t" syndrome. (genetic)...Was just sitting around...and all of a sudden woke up in an ambulance. Was lucky to have someone around that did CPR until they arrived.

Basically can make your heart go out of rhythm and it beats so fast...that it 'flutters' and doesn't really pump blood. (several times went into "V-Tac" ..had to use paddles on me. was airlifted...emergency pacemaker (and had an episode during them putting it in...was scary as fuck..thought I had OD'd or something when I came around (because of the medicine they put you to make you go out..makes your short term memory non existant))

I guess normally it is diagnosed earlier (or kid dies). When I went to counseling..she had a story...this lady had a four year old daughter...and it was halloween. Kid came running around the corner and she went "BOO!" ...and kid fell over dead. (was later determined that she had long q t)

100% true swear to God story.

Getting "scared" etc can bring on the heart not beating right w/Long Q-T -- (maybe bad dream ^)--and resulting in V-TAC. When I first started reading about it--even a phone ringing could set it off for some people.

I've told my family to get tested (because its genetic)...but none of them believe its real (they believe other things caused it).


if you ever have regular spells of being "light headed" ....or its in your family...should get checked.

Though my doc says nothing is 100%, even genetic testing itself (really expensive I guess), isn't 100%.
 
Also want to add--from my understanding, the doctor says this is pretty rare to have.....so wouldn't be to worried...and really you prob dont need to get tested if you get light headed lol.

Also--haven't had any incidents since having defibulator put in. Have checkups every 6 months and they can see if there is something that has ever happened. (guess the thing has wifi lol...do it from home...it dials in to a number and gives report).
 
The only thing that scares me about death is that my family isn't old enough yet to be independent. While I would be sad to have died before the kids and have not realized my potential, etc, I didn't fear death. I now only fear it because I'd leave behind a 5 and 8-year-old who need their mom.

But as death goes, painless in your sleep is a great way to go out. The worst way is to die gradually over a period of time and not be able to live independently. When you require almost constant care and services to keep your heart beating and your lungs moving, that's not a life worth living in my opinion.
 
Carpe Diem.

Take every second of your life and prepare to die one day. That is why I always say Goodbye to my parents and family after going away for a few months. What if I die? What was the last conversation you had with them?
Even worse, what if you had a fight with someone close to you and out of rage you drove away and died due to an accident. Is that how you want to die?

No it's not. Be ready to die, but be prepared.
 
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I've tried, but I simply cannot accept the idea of death and I do not think I will ever will.

Right now I'm existing, perceiving, thinking, doing, enjoying. As long as I am living there are endless possibilities for me - the sky is the limit and anything is possible. No matter what your situation, living and existing allows for the possibility of all these positive things. Death is the sudden and permanent end to it all, all the hope, joy, excitement, the possibilities and opportunities. They are all permanently gone, never to be experienced by you ever again.

No. I cannot accept or embrace death. That is giving up on everything that is great, that makes life worth living for. I am with the OP, death scares me and I will fight death, scraping and clawing my way until the end - and if I do a good enough job, maybe I can fight long enough so that I reach a point where death is no longer inevitable.

Fuck death and fuck giving up and accepting a shitty end.
 
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cardine said:
I've tried, but I simply cannot accept the idea of death and I do not think I will ever will.

Right now I'm existing, perceiving, thinking, doing, enjoying. As long as I am living there are endless possibilities for me - the sky is the limit and anything is possible. No matter what your situation, living and existing allows for the possibility of all these positive things. Death is the sudden and permanent end to it all, all the hope, joy, excitement, the possibilities and opportunities. They are all permanently gone, never to be experienced by you ever again.

No. I cannot accept or embrace death. That is giving up on everything that is great, that makes life worth living for. I am with the OP, death scares me and I will fight death, scraping and clawing my way until the end - and if I do a good enough job, maybe I can fight long enough so that I reach a point where death is no longer inevitable.

Fuck death and fuck giving up and accepting a shitty end.
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Your angst is based on the assumption that all ends at death.
 
Brizz said:
I had something go wrong with my heart. (now have defibrillator...and take propanolol.) ....I was lucky I wasn't sleeping (actually was about to go take a nap away from others before it happened).

Happened when I was 27. Doctors ended up determining I had "long q t" syndrome. (genetic)...Was just sitting around...and all of a sudden woke up in an ambulance. Was lucky to have someone around that did CPR until they arrived.

Basically can make your heart go out of rhythm and it beats so fast...that it 'flutters' and doesn't really pump blood. (several times went into "V-Tac" ..had to use paddles on me. was airlifted...emergency pacemaker (and had an episode during them putting it in...was scary as fuck..thought I had OD'd or something when I came around (because of the medicine they put you to make you go out..makes your short term memory non existant))

I guess normally it is diagnosed earlier (or kid dies). When I went to counseling..she had a story...this lady had a four year old daughter...and it was halloween. Kid came running around the corner and she went "BOO!" ...and kid fell over dead. (was later determined that she had long q t)

100% true swear to God story.

Getting "scared" etc can bring on the heart not beating right w/Long Q-T -- (maybe bad dream ^)--and resulting in V-TAC. When I first started reading about it--even a phone ringing could set it off for some people.

I've told my family to get tested (because its genetic)...but none of them believe its real (they believe other things caused it).


if you ever have regular spells of being "light headed" ....or its in your family...should get checked.

Though my doc says nothing is 100%, even genetic testing itself (really expensive I guess), isn't 100%.
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What brand is your ICD? And, how long have you had it?

My first I had for 10-years, it was a Medtronic GEM.
My 2nd (and current) is a Boston Scientific Teligen, which
I've had for almost 4-years.
 
zimok said:
What's your assumption?
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i can't speak for productionhead, but the assumption that death is the end is just that, an assumption, and probably the worst possible case assumption. the fact is nobody has any clue what really happens.

instead of assuming worst case, which obviously produces the internal reactions cardine described, choose to assume nothing at all, or since we're all just fucking guessing anyway, choose to assume something that doesn't waste your time here & now with unfounded fears. if we're going to make arbitrary assumptions, they might as well serve us, or at the very least not limit us.
 
drave said:
i can't speak for productionhead, but the assumption that death is the end is just that, an assumption, and probably the worst possible case assumption. the fact is nobody has any clue what really happens.

instead of assuming worst case, which obviously produces the internal reactions cardine described, choose to assume nothing at all, or since we're all just fucking guessing anyway, choose to assume something that doesn't waste your time here & now with unfounded fears. if we're going to make arbitrary assumptions, they might as well serve us, or at the very least not limit us.
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When there is an uncertainty it is usually more prudent to plan for the worst case and not blindly hope for the best case.

Ignoring those "unfounded fears" (which are certainly not unfounded) might provide comfort now, but they won't provide comfort if/when I die and cease to exist for the rest of eternity.
 
Born out of nothingness once, my guess is we'll be born out of nothingness again, and on it goes for eternity. Although, each time will feel 'new' just like this time since the 'you' you think you are doesn't really exist. I believe Alan Watts compared it to being the same as seeing an interesting pattern in a whirlpool that eventually disappears.

What really gets me thinking is how many times has this happened before? If death and life really happen eternally, then there is no end to how many lives lived and how many lives will be lived. When you're dead there's nobody there to know you're dead until life happens again. For some reason that kind of scares me more than anything else - life and death being eternal.
 
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You guys should have done more drugs when you were younger, because then you probably wouldn't be as worried about all this death stuff.
 
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cardine said:
Ignoring those "unfounded fears" (which are certainly not unfounded) might provide comfort now, but they won't provide comfort if/when I die and cease to exist for the rest of eternity.
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so to be clear, you're interested in protecting your comfort after you are incapable of experiencing anything?
 
drave said:
so to be clear, you're interested in protecting your comfort after you are capable of experiencing anything?
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I don't think we're clear, because that's not what I want.

I'm interested in prolonging my ability to exist. I have no desire to be blissfully ignorant, which is what you were advocating.
 
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